1967 Fuse Panel Housing and Bulkhead Connector Block Replacement

[Leif A.]

Re: 1967 Fuse Panel Housing and Bulkhead Connector Block Replacement

Alan,
What is the relay above the voltage regulator? I've never seen that on a '67...or any other C2.

[Geoff C.]

Re: 1967 Fuse Panel Housing and Bulkhead Connector Block Replacement

As a follow up to the infamous VR ground wire being too short.....

[Alan D.]

Re: 1967 Fuse Panel Housing and Bulkhead Connector Block Replacement

Appears to be part of the alarm system - look to far right in picture, a siren. The car was supposed to be original, however an alarm was installed. I did look at another picture which seems to show the black wire going to siren.
Unfortunately I only noted owner as Wakef Olson, (may mean Olson was from Wakefield) believe car was at Chapter meet around 2011, but I did not document very well - now doing much better.
It seems we need to look at more originals, think the subject deserves it's own post to get some original owners to chime in.

[Leif A.]

Re: 1967 Fuse Panel Housing and Bulkhead Connector Block Replacement

Alan,
That makes complete sense. I can see the siren to the right in the picture.

[Richard M.]

Re: 1967 Fuse Panel Housing and Bulkhead Connector Block Replacement

Geoff, Only those that get their cars judged care. The 'short' ground wire is a deduct. It's actually a peeve of mine that it IS in fact a deduct. I disagree with it. I think the judges have been misinformed. But for those that play the game of points, as many of us do, we either take the hit or lengthen the wire. That's why I used the term ....."infamous".

Yesterday I spent some tedious time replacing a "clear" fusible link with a original, and adding one inch of wire to the ground. This on a NOS GM service replacement harness. Properly soldered using proper joint splices with heat shrink tubing then re-wrapping the harness out to the alternator extension.

Believe me, I hated doing it.

Rich

[Alan D.]

Re: 1967 Fuse Panel Housing and Bulkhead Connector Block Replacement

Let’s think about that 1 point !



The item is worth 7 – 5 (64 judging sheet split, assume 67 is same) Originality of 7 points is split between the regulator and capacitor, so lets say 5 & 2 split. EDIT - It's 5 - 2 so I can not see the -1!


The regulator has many parts to look at, Mfg logo, lettering, cover, base, screws, pn, date code, . . .


So the 5 points will include all these things and even if all the points were given to the one item of concern - that one wire,


under CDCIF the short wire would take a 20% deduction (no double dipping) for 1 point, however there is so much more than that one wire – so 1 point seems overkill and not within the CDCIF philosophy

Believe Richard says misinformed must agree.

[Geoff C.]

Re: 1967 Fuse Panel Housing and Bulkhead Connector Block Replacement

Rich: I honestly believe you have had problems. I have not had any that you reveal, but we shop in different stores.

[Terry M.]

Re: 1967 Fuse Panel Housing and Bulkhead Connector Block Replacement

EDIT - It's 5 - 2 so I can not see the -1!misinformed must agree.

Alan,
I vary rarely judge Corvettes with voltage regulators, so I may be way off base here, but isn't there a line item in the Mechanical section for Wire Harness? If so, that would seem to me to be the more appropriate place to make a deduction (if any) for the "short" ground wire.

Even if the deduction were to be considered under the wire harness, your point (note: bad pun) regarding whether the deviation merits even a one point deduct would I suspect still be valid.

[Richard M.]

Re: 1967 Fuse Panel Housing and Bulkhead Connector Block Replacement

Gentlemen,

As some strive for the ultimate restoration using assembly line parts, every point is important. My friend has been doing this for many years on many cars including Cadillac, Lincoln, Packard, Buick, Chevrolet just to name a few. I've seen his work on all of the cars he does and it is breathtaking.

His favorite is the 1967 Corvette. He owns one other that he campaigned last year through NCRS and Bloomington. After each event, he'd strive to get each and every deduct point eliminated. Be it a little thing or not, he wanted it corrected. If there is anyone that strives to attain the ultimate achievement, it's him. I'm fortunate to have befriended him 2 years ago when we met at a Concours event here in Florida and feel lucky that we live near each other here in Florida.

2 years ago you may remember a '67 that I restored and posted my pictorial thread when I lifted the gorgeous body from a marginal frame on New Years Eve. I met my friend a few weeks later, at the same time he was restoring his blue car. We shared knowledge and research, shared fun, and shared our passions together. When I was deep in the task, he was there at moments notice to help me. Be it on the phone, emails, trips to me or me to him, whatever I needed he was there to help.

It may be only a point or a dot or a nano-dot or whatever. It really doesn't matter what scale of NTP it is. We're both trying to gain the maximum.

Rich
ps We got the body back on the chassis on Wednesday and spent the day yesterday on other assembly tasks. Late yesterday afternoon we powered up the electrical system and everything worked. All of the bench tests I did after my harness corrections proved worthwhile.

[Richard M.]

Re: 1967 Fuse Panel Housing and Bulkhead Connector Block Replacement

Update....All of the tenacious repairs and pre-assembly of the electrical system have paid off. We got the body back on last week and by Monday the entire electrical system was fully wired and proven. We went through a full operations test and all electrical functions operating 100%.

We completed the engine and mechanical assembly, started it up, adjusted a few things and engine now is broken in. Engine runs superbly. We've been at it all week continuing assembly and all we have left is brake bleed, carpet, seats and misc interior installation, windshield install, soft top installation(scheduled for Friday), then lay on the hood and bolt it all up. Then 4-wheel alignment then onto the chassis dyno for some drive time. Then spiff it all up, put the cover on it and wait for Lakeland.

Kindof a deja vu from a year ago when I got tthe black one done at the last minute for Lakeland, and when my friend was there for me to help get it done for the Winter Regional. This time, a white one. I'm really enjoying returning the favor by helping him out with it. Fun with newly restored Corvettes and fun with good friends.

Rich

[Francis F.]

Re: 1967 Fuse Panel Housing and Bulkhead Connector Block Replacement

Richard good and nice photos of the fuse block etc,
Thanks,
Francis

[William F.]

Re: 1967 Fuse Panel Housing and Bulkhead Connector Block Replacement

Your method of adding the ignition fuse is eloquent and with your method, fuse could be removed for judging, but couldn't you also just cut the brown wire and permanently solder the fuse holder to each end of cut brown wire?

[Richard M.]

Re: 1967 Fuse Panel Housing and Bulkhead Connector Block Replacement

Your method of adding the ignition fuse is eloquent and with your method, fuse could be removed for judging, but couldn't you also just cut the brown wire and permanently solder the fuse holder to each end of cut brown wire?

William, Yes cutting the Brown(assuming a C1) and adding the fuse in series is definitely feasible. I've done that on many cars. It's good insurance against shorts in the engine bay near the distributor shielding and ballast resistor/wiper motor feeds

On a '60 I restored a few years ago, I added a 15A fuse at the ignition and also added a 30A fuse at the Ammeter. That 30A fuse saved the engine harness on that car when I inadvertently dropped a screwdriver down near the side mounted voltage regulator. It lodged between the VR Red feed and the braided ground sheathing of the Generator/VR harness.

The 30A fuse blew immediately. If not fused, the new harness would have burned up as I couldn't reach down fast enough to remove the tool because it was buried under the fresh air hose.

Rich

[Richard M.]

Re: 1967 Fuse Panel Housing and Bulkhead Connector Block Replacement

Richard good and nice photos of the fuse block etc,
Thanks,
Francis

Thanks Francis

[John L.]

Re: 1967 Fuse Panel Housing and Bulkhead Connector Block Replacement

well said Doc