C2 Tire tub lock - help

[Keith W.]

I don't have the key, it never came with the car - is there a trick like on the ignition lock where you can get the barrel out ?

[Harry S.]

Re: C2 Tire tub lock - help

Take it to an old time locksmith.

[Frank D.]

Re: C2 Tire tub lock - help

Yup! Take your ignition key with you (and a GM key blank if you have one) and they'll pick the lock and re-key it to your key....
The locksmith did it for my '63...cost me $13...

[Joe R.]

Re: C2 Tire tub lock - help

Keith,

Do some research before you spend money on this lock as it's not for a 63 to begin with. That bracket and shaft also came from a 64 or later.

JR

[Richard M.]

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What year is the car? Does the glovebox lock key fit the spare lock on all midyears? You need the key and that paper clip to remove the tumbler, just like the ignition locks.....

I can't recall if ALL years are this way, but before you take it to a locksmith, remove your glove box lock and take the tumbler assembly with you as there is a code on it. IF....the spare tire lock is original to the car, the key may match the glove box key.

You may want to try using a very thin bendable tool to get it in behind the flange of the bolt to push on the lock lever. At least you may be able to get it off the bolt.

I think most years have similar internals. If you get the thin tool past the lip if the bolt it may let you push the lock tab in to remove the tumbler. Some pics of the internals below from a '63.

https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...574#post770574

Rich

[Harry S.]

Re: C2 Tire tub lock - help

Two of the 63 style bolts and brackets. The one on the left is very early and the lock had no drain hole or boot. I can not recall when the boot was added.

[Peter L.]

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Keith - JR offers sage adviser you are looking for an original spare tire lock for a 1963 to 1965L Corvette. While the spare tire lock will function fine once it is removed from the bolt, it is not the configuration that came on the 1963 to 1965L Corvettes. The spare tire lock pictured is the configuration introduced with the 1967 Corvette model year & used on the 1967+ model Corvettes. The lock cylinder bezel has the pin hole in it for access to the release pin to remove the lock cylinder where the 1963-1966 spare tire locks had a "U" notch at the edge of the bezel to access the release pin. Also the lock case looks to be the B2 configuration where the earlier spare tire lock cases were a B1 configuration. There are also some other differences. Pete

[Gary B.]

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... If you get the thin tool past the lip if the bolt it may let you push the lock tab in to remove the tumbler.

Richard,

I'm not quite sure what you're saying here, but removing the bolt from the lock will not help in removing the lock cylinder. To remove the clock ylinder, the lock either has to be picked open using lock picking tools, or a functional key and a paper clip are needed to remove the lock core.

Gary

[Richard M.]

Re: C2 Tire tub lock - help

Richard,

I'm not quite sure what you're saying here, but removing the bolt from the lock will not help in removing the lock cylinder. To remove the clock ylinder, the lock either has to be picked open using lock picking tools, or a functional key and a paper clip are needed to remove the lock core.

Gary

Gary, Yes you're right. I used the wrong word.... ".....to remove the tumbler". I should have said ".....to remove the lock". My idea was to remove the entire lock assembly from the bolt. This way he wouldn't need to bring it to a locksmith to remove the lock from the bolt.

But since it's now known the lock should be for a '63, it may be helpful to try my suggestion, then acquire the right lock/key for his '63.

Rich

[Keith W.]

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The Vette is a 64, 110811 I checked the key with the glove box it locks it with ease, never used it before so that box it ticked.

will take the lock to a locksmith and ask to get open and advice on getting a key cut to fit / work - thanks for all the advice as always much appreciated cheers Keith

[Larry M.]

Re: C2 Tire tub lock - help

The Vette is a 64, 110811 I checked the key with the glove box it locks it with ease, never used it before so that box it ticked.

will take the lock to a locksmith and ask to get open and advice on getting a key cut to fit / work - thanks for all the advice as always much appreciated cheers Keith

Keith:

Both Pete L and Gary B can probably fix you up with the correct lock and key for your 1964 car. They are just not wanting to advertise their services. I have dealt with both and they are good folks........with very reasonable prices.

FWIW.

Larry

[Gary B.]

Re: C2 Tire tub lock - help

The Vette is a 64, 110811 I checked the key with the glove box it locks it with ease, never used it before so that box it ticked.

will take the lock to a locksmith and ask to get open and advice on getting a key cut to fit / work - thanks for all the advice as always much appreciated cheers Keith

Generally, tire locks for '67 and newer will accept only one letter key (B, D, H, or K), so you likely will not be able to have a locksmith rekey that lock to work with your '64 key, which has a Groove 15 keyway which is different and not interchangeable with any of the later style letter keys. There are so-called "unrestricted" lock cores for '67 and newer tire locks and if you happen to have an unrestricted core, or if the locksmith can get one of those, then that tire lock can be re-coded so that your '64 key will work the tire lock as well. Otherwise you will have to use one of the letter keys just for the tire lock.

Gary

[Keith W.]

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Went down the lock smith getting two keys cut - when I go to Florida will pick up a couple of GM blanks and get cut.
The Key guy took less than 20 secs to open with the jiggler keys - cost $30

[John D.]

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If you get it open and can remove the tumbler you can play around with the tumbler pins (grinding mostly) to make your current glove box key work. Any key at all will open mine and it passed NCRS judging just fine.

[Gary B.]

Re: C2 Tire tub lock - help

If you get it open and can remove the tumbler you can play around with the tumbler pins (grinding mostly) to make your current glove box key work. Any key at all will open mine and it passed NCRS judging just fine.

john,

Since the tire lock that Keith has almost certainly takes a later style letter key, a '64 key will not insert into that lock cylinder even if all the tumblers are removed. The tumblers aren't the problem, it's the difference in keyways between '67 and later style keys vs. '66 and earlier keys.

Gary