I know you pack them in heavy grease but that's not even working. Every time I drop the shaft in the housing the tip always hits the bearings and upsets them. Any tips.
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Re: How to keep the 16 roller bearings in place in a borg warner transmission
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Re: How to keep the 16 roller bearings in place in a borg warner transmission
Yes, I may have the number of roller bearings wrong, just a guess. It's the roller bearings that fit inside the pilot bore and you use grease to hold them In place on the side of the bore when trans gears goes in.Comment
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Re: How to keep the 16 roller bearings in place in a borg warner transmission
Cut a piece of wooden dowel that is the same diameter as the countershaft, to the same length as the countergear. Install the bearings in the countergear with the dowel holding them in place. Put the countergear in the transmission, and push the dowel out with the countershaft. The dowel will hold the the bearings in place as the countershaft slides into the transmission case and pushes the dowel out. The tailshaft housing will have to be off so the dowel can come out the back end of the transmission. It was about 30+ years ago that I had the same issue with a Muncie. Hope this is what you were referring to and that you have success in getting your transmission back together. Those bearings can be a pain even with a heavy wheel bearing grease.
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Re: How to keep the 16 roller bearings in place in a borg warner transmission
Chetser, I Use Vaseline, or wheel bearing grease.New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.Comment
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Re: How to keep the 16 roller bearings in place in a borg warner transmission
Edward,
Yes, Vaseline is the choice of those who build transmissions for fun and profit. The Vaseline will melt with heat and be replaced with trans oil. Some people say the heavy grease will not be replaced as the transmission heats up.
Built them for years with axle grease and no complaints BUT it could happen any day.
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Re: How to keep the 16 roller bearings in place in a borg warner transmission
I used to use STP to hold them in. I don't even know if they make that stuff anymore?
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Re: How to keep the 16 roller bearings in place in a borg warner transmission
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This is essentially how GM recommended it be done and how I do it. For Muncie transmissions there was actually a Kent-Moore GM tool for use as the dummy shaft. It was J-22246. The tool for T-10's was J-24658.Last edited by Joe L.; November 16, 2016, 05:58 PM.In Appreciation of John HinckleyComment
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Re: How to keep the 16 roller bearings in place in a borg warner transmission
You might want to double check the number of bearings the transmission takes. You don't want be short.
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Re: How to keep the 16 roller bearings in place in a borg warner transmission
I use trans gel- DR Goo green works great, No dummy shafts needed. I made a trans holder to build them.Comment
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Re: How to keep the 16 roller bearings in place in a borg warner transmission
Would have been nice to have trans gel back when. I believe I used the petroleum jelly aka Vaseline. The trans gel must be really sticky!
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Re: How to keep the 16 roller bearings in place in a borg warner transmission
Steve
The Dr goo stuff looks like a thick wax more then a gel. 5speeeds.com has some video on their site showing it in use. I pack the countershaft rollers complete, slide through the counter shaft and they are neatly packed. The main to input cage rollers I just pack and they don't move. Once the oil in the trans gets hot it will dissolve the goo and there are no after affects that I have seen. I have been using it the past 10-12 years now sure when it actually came out?Comment
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