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  • Patrick C.
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    • January 16, 2013
    • 327

    1964 FI Roadster

    I am getiing my 1964 FI engine ready to go to the dyno to break in the cam, check the A/F ratio and insure its ready to go in the car. What do you see wrong before I get it back and put it back in the car to be judged? BTW I have written a multi part article on this car on the Oklahoma NCRS web site. See Pat and Kellys Corvette Adventure.
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  • Michael J.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 27, 2009
    • 7122

    #2
    Re: 1964 FI Roadster

    Looks really nice, nothing obvious jumps out, but three questions, why didn't you paint the exhaust manifolds engine color, what serial number is your FI unit, and do you have a VIN stamp on the FI unit? Thanks, here is a picture of mine that just went in my '64 tanker.
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    Last edited by Michael J.; October 11, 2016, 09:43 PM.
    Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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    • Patrick C.
      Expired
      • January 16, 2013
      • 327

      #3
      Re: 1964 FI Roadster

      Your engine looks great! Will overspray the exhaust manifolds after the dyno test. See www.ncrs-ok.org. Check out the newsletter and the series of articles since April titled "Pat and Kellys Corvette Adventure" for all the numbers and the complete history of this car.

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      • Dan H.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • July 31, 1977
        • 1369

        #4
        Re: 1964 FI Roadster

        Patrick, should also over spray water pump bypass hose and water pump bolts, some silver on thermostat housing and intake area of gasket, after the engine orange paint.
        Dan
        1964 Red FI Coupe, DUNTOV '09
        Drove the 64 over 5000 miles to three Regionals and the San Jose National, one dust storm and 40 lbs of bugs!

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        • Bob J.
          Very Frequent User
          • December 1, 1977
          • 714

          #5
          Re: 1964 FI Roadster

          Your engine looks very nice.

          In addition to Dan and Michael's excellent advice, I would paint the front area where the adapter meets the block, so paint shows on the rubber end seal. Michael's engine looks like it was painted assembled, your engine appears like the adapter was installed after paint, since the front rubber seal lacks paint.

          I believe your fuel pump is incorrect in that it lacks the upper housing ribs. and I'd wipe the white printing off the fan belts.
          I believe you'll also need a fuel meter foil tag.

          Bob Jorjorian

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          • Patrick C.
            Expired
            • January 16, 2013
            • 327

            #6
            Re: 1964 FI Roadster

            Thanks Guys for the great advice. The engine is going to the dyno next week and its in the mock up stage right now to make sure everything fits. Tomorrow I take it back apart (fuel unit, adapter manifold, water pump, exhaust manifolds, fuel pump, ect) and reassemble to seal every thing up. When I bring it back from the break in on the dyno I plan to add the over spray and the correct belts. The fuel pump is a replacement for now....i have been choking on the prices of a correct rebuilt pump.

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            • Patrick C.
              Expired
              • January 16, 2013
              • 327

              #7
              Re: 1964 FI Roadster

              Originally posted by Bob Jorjorian (1619)
              Your engine looks very nice.

              In addition to Dan and Michael's excellent advice, I would paint the front area where the adapter meets the block, so paint shows on the rubber end seal. Michael's engine looks like it was painted assembled, your engine appears like the adapter was installed after paint, since the front rubber seal lacks paint.

              I believe your fuel pump is incorrect in that it lacks the upper housing ribs. and I'd wipe the white printing off the fan belts.
              I believe you'll also need a fuel meter foil tag.

              Bob Jorjorian
              forgot about the tag on the fuel unit. Thanks Bob

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              • Michael J.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • January 27, 2009
                • 7122

                #8
                Re: 1964 FI Roadster

                Originally posted by Bob Jorjorian (1619)
                Your engine looks very nice.

                Michael's engine looks like it was painted assembled, your engine appears like the adapter was installed after paint, since the front rubber seal lacks paint.
                Thanks, that is exactly the factory original look we were going for. It is very hard to simulate overspray burn-off of the original painted assembly process without it actually being burned off. It doesn't take too many miles for it to look really good and original.
                Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                • Gene M.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • April 1, 1985
                  • 4232

                  #9
                  Re: 1964 FI Roadster

                  I'll try not to duplicate previous comments.

                  Looks like too much orange paint and paint where it would not be also should have overspray.

                  the long water pump fitting s/b all zinc plated. same for nipple on intake

                  pulleys way too much shine.

                  vacuum canister is wrong configuration

                  ignition shield brackets s/b bare steel

                  fan belt s/b imbossed identification not printed

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                  • Michael J.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • January 27, 2009
                    • 7122

                    #10
                    Re: 1964 FI Roadster

                    Originally posted by Patrick Cavanagh (57907)
                    Your engine looks great! Will overspray the exhaust manifolds after the dyno test. See www.ncrs-ok.org. Check out the newsletter and the series of articles since April titled "Pat and Kellys Corvette Adventure" for all the numbers and the complete history of this car.
                    Thank you! I will look at the newsletters for your articles and the FI unit serial number, sounds interesting. I am always interested in early 380 unit numbers and how they varied.
                    Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                    • Jerry G.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • April 1, 1985
                      • 1022

                      #11
                      Re: 1964 FI Roadster

                      I run a full time A/F readout on my 64 FI road race car. I have noticed that the right side is consistently more lean than the left side exhaust. This is also true on my two street FI Corvettes. I think it has to do with air flow pattern inside air box. One note a typical Dyno setup will have a single air horn to measure air flow that will not mount horizontally so you will need a wide band sensor in the exhaust to run A/F analyst.

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                      • Dan H.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • July 31, 1977
                        • 1369

                        #12
                        Re: 1964 FI Roadster

                        Also, water pump appears to be a '326' instead of a '175' 64 pump, some articles on here about that subject. Also big $$$ like the fuel pump, oh well, it's only money?
                        1964 Red FI Coupe, DUNTOV '09
                        Drove the 64 over 5000 miles to three Regionals and the San Jose National, one dust storm and 40 lbs of bugs!

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                        • Michael J.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • January 27, 2009
                          • 7122

                          #13
                          Re: 1964 FI Roadster

                          Originally posted by Dan Holstein (1440)
                          Also, water pump appears to be a '326' instead of a '175' 64 pump, some articles on here about that subject. Also big $$$ like the fuel pump, oh well, it's only money?
                          Be careful with that water pump topic, it is like politics and very emotional and controversial, but consider what is in the TIM&JG first if you are interested in flight judging..........
                          Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                          • Patrick C.
                            Expired
                            • January 16, 2013
                            • 327

                            #14
                            Re: 1964 FI Roadster

                            Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
                            Thank you! I will look at the newsletters for your articles and the FI unit serial number, sounds interesting. I am always interested in early 380 unit numbers and how they varied.
                            So far, i have written 7 articles since April regarding this car. There will be at least 12 segments before I'm done with the minor restoration. The car has had two owners from new and i have talked at length with both previous owners which is discussed in these articles. Interesting history.

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                            • Patrick C.
                              Expired
                              • January 16, 2013
                              • 327

                              #15
                              Re: 1964 FI Roadster

                              Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
                              Be careful with that water pump topic, it is like politics and very emotional and controversial, but consider what is in the TIM&JG first if you are interested in flight judging..........
                              I have seen all the discussion and controversy. I have the 6th addition TIM&JM and the 326 pump works for me with the correct original bypass elbow.

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