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  • Sam G.
    Infrequent User
    • June 13, 2013
    • 10

    1970 LT-1 Dipstick

    I am looking for a dipstick for a 1970 LT-1 that reads ADD o o FULL USE GM 6041-M QUALITY MS OIL

    Dipstick is 21-1/8" to the end of the handle and has a black plug. Anyone have one for sale? If so, please PM with pictures and price.
    Sam Gallagher
    Savannah, GA
    NCRS #58549
    1964 Coupe Fuelie (2x 2nd Flight Awards)
    1990 ZR1 McLellan Mark of Excellence and Cross Flight Awards
  • Terry L.
    Frequent User
    • August 13, 2007
    • 99

    #2
    Re: 1970 LT-1 Dipstick

    Sam,

    I think I have one but I won't be home until Saturday or Sunday. Send me your email and I'll send over a picture.

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    • David L.
      Expired
      • July 31, 1980
      • 3310

      #3
      Re: 1970 LT-1 Dipstick

      There were two versions of the 69-71 dipstick (GM # 3951576) that were stamped "USE GM 6041-M-QUALITY MS OIL". I have one NOS and one used from a 1970 Chevelle w/307 Tonowanda engine but neither is for sale. Both dipsticks have the handle with the flattened end and the stamped letter "E" (rotated 90 degrees) on the stick part. I know that theses dipsticks are correct for my 1970 Camaro SS350 (Tonowanda engine).

      Were the Corvette engines made in Flint only issued the dipstick with the green button or were both types issued? It is my understanding that the 1970 Camaro Z28 models (Flint engines) were issued both types.

      Dave

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • February 1, 1988
        • 43219

        #4
        Re: 1970 LT-1 Dipstick

        Originally posted by David Liukkonen (3775)
        There were two versions of the 69-71 dipstick (GM # 3951576) that were stamped "USE GM 6041-M-QUALITY MS OIL". I have one NOS and one used from a 1970 Chevelle w/307 Tonowanda engine but neither is for sale. Both dipsticks have the handle with the flattened end and the stamped letter "E" (rotated 90 degrees) on the stick part. I know that theses dipsticks are correct for my 1970 Camaro SS350 (Tonowanda engine).

        Were the Corvette engines made in Flint only issued the dipstick with the green button or were both types issued? It is my understanding that the 1970 Camaro Z28 models (Flint engines) were issued both types.

        Dave


        Dave------


        Corvette LT-1's did not use these dipsticks. The Corvette small block oil pans (1963-74) were different than those used on any other Chevrolet and the dipsticks were, thus, different, too.
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • David L.
          Expired
          • July 31, 1980
          • 3310

          #5
          Re: 1970 LT-1 Dipstick

          Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
          Dave------


          Corvette LT-1's did not use these dipsticks. The Corvette small block oil pans (1963-74) were different than those used on any other Chevrolet and the dipsticks were, thus, different, too.
          Joe,

          My mistake. The 63-74 Corvettes used a 3739830 dipstick which had a black plastic tip at the end of the loop on the handle. As far as I know the 69-71 Corvette dipsticks had the "USE GM 6041 M QUALITY MS OIL" stamped on them.

          Dave

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • February 1, 1988
            • 43219

            #6
            Re: 1970 LT-1 Dipstick

            Originally posted by David Liukkonen (3775)
            Joe,

            My mistake. The 63-74 Corvettes used a 3739830 dipstick which had a black plastic tip at the end of the loop on the handle. As far as I know the 69-71 Corvette dipsticks had the "USE GM 6041 M QUALITY MS OIL" stamped on them.

            Dave

            Dave------

            Yes, I believe that's what was embossed on original 69-71 small block dipsticks.

            By the way, 1975-79 Corvettes did use the dipstick you mentioned (3951576). That's because these model years used the same oil pan as most other Chevrolet models, including Camaro, full size Chevrolet and others. For 1980 GM went back to the same configuration as used for 63-74 except with a right hand dipstick. This basic configuration remained the same right through 1996 except for the change to one piece rear seal in 1986. These 1980-96 oil pans were Corvette-only just as the 63-74 were.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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            • Sam G.
              Infrequent User
              • June 13, 2013
              • 10

              #7
              Re: 1970 LT-1 Dipstick

              Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
              Dave------

              Yes, I believe that's what was embossed on original 69-71 small block dipsticks.

              By the way, 1975-79 Corvettes did use the dipstick you mentioned (3951576). That's because these model years used the same oil pan as most other Chevrolet models, including Camaro, full size Chevrolet and others. For 1980 GM went back to the same configuration as used for 63-74 except with a right hand dipstick. This basic configuration remained the same right through 1996 except for the change to one piece rear seal in 1986. These 1980-96 oil pans were Corvette-only just as the 63-74 were.
              Joe,
              Still looking for the correct dipstick. Let see if I understand what you have written: should I be looking only for years 69-71, as well as, 80-96 right hand dipsticks? If so would 80-96 have the same words, length...? I do not own such newer cars (-) the ZR-1 to pop the hood and look
              Sam
              Sam Gallagher
              Savannah, GA
              NCRS #58549
              1964 Coupe Fuelie (2x 2nd Flight Awards)
              1990 ZR1 McLellan Mark of Excellence and Cross Flight Awards

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              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • February 1, 1988
                • 43219

                #8
                Re: 1970 LT-1 Dipstick

                Originally posted by Sam Gallagher (58549)
                Joe,
                Still looking for the correct dipstick. Let see if I understand what you have written: should I be looking only for years 69-71, as well as, 80-96 right hand dipsticks? If so would 80-96 have the same words, length...? I do not own such newer cars (-) the ZR-1 to pop the hood and look
                Sam

                Sam------


                You're looking for a 1965-74 Corvette small block dipstick, GM #3862730. However, if you want one with the correct embossments on the blade, then you need one from about the 69-71 period. The embossments changed over time.

                While the configuration of the 80-96 Corvette oil pans is similar to 63-74, the dipsticks are different in many ways. So, you definitely don't want any of the 80-96 dipsticks.
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                • Sam G.
                  Infrequent User
                  • June 13, 2013
                  • 10

                  #9
                  Re: 1970 LT-1 Dipstick

                  Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                  Sam------


                  You're looking for a 1965-74 Corvette small block dipstick, GM #3862730. However, if you want one with the correct embossments on the blade, then you need one from about the 69-71 period. The embossments changed over time.

                  While the configuration of the 80-96 Corvette oil pans is similar to 63-74, the dipsticks are different in many ways. So, you definitely don't want any of the 80-96 dipsticks.

                  Joe,
                  Thank you for explaining the above. I have also posted on Corvette Forum. The car has been Top Flighted, Bloomington Gold, Duntov, PV by previous owner but there a few things that I want to take care of such as the dipstick and the boot cover that goes over the shoulder harness seat belt. The challenge on that is the color...Donnybrooke Green inside and out. May have to buy the boot protector from a storefront (Zips....) and dye them. Getting it ready for the Hilton Head Concour in Nov. Don't expect any judge to ask to see the dipstick but that's the OCD in me :-)
                  Sam
                  Sam Gallagher
                  Savannah, GA
                  NCRS #58549
                  1964 Coupe Fuelie (2x 2nd Flight Awards)
                  1990 ZR1 McLellan Mark of Excellence and Cross Flight Awards

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                  • Jeffrey S.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • May 31, 1988
                    • 1882

                    #10
                    Re: 1970 LT-1 Dipstick

                    Sam,
                    Attached is a photo of the dip stick from my '69 (original) small block, and a second one I have which is for sale. My original is the bottom one. Also is a picture of the top of both handles with the black plastic plug. Both are exactly the same length. If this is what you are looking for contact me off the Board.
                    Jeff
                    Attached Files

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                    • Ronald R.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • May 31, 1989
                      • 670

                      #11
                      Re: 1970 LT-1 Dipstick

                      Joe am i looking for the "J" or lollypop design on the 70 ZR1/LT1? thanks RDR

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                      • Joe L.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • February 1, 1988
                        • 43219

                        #12
                        Re: 1970 LT-1 Dipstick

                        Originally posted by Ronald Rains (15175)
                        Joe am i looking for the "J" or lollypop design on the 70 ZR1/LT1? thanks RDR
                        Ronald------


                        If you are referring to the handle configuration, the configuration seen in Jeff's photos is correct. The LT-1 or ZR-1 dipstick was no different than any other Corvette small block for 1970 (and most other 1965-74 Corvette small blocks).
                        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                        • Ronald R.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • May 31, 1989
                          • 670

                          #13
                          Re: 1970 LT-1 Dipstick

                          This is what i have but a little off on length
                          Attached Files

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                          • Ronald R.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • May 31, 1989
                            • 670

                            #14
                            Re: 1970 LT-1 Dipstick

                            Yes This is what mine looks like the script is ths same the add and fill marks are as per this picture. thanks Ronnie
                            Attached Files

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                            • Joe L.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • February 1, 1988
                              • 43219

                              #15
                              Re: 1970 LT-1 Dipstick

                              Originally posted by Ronald Rains (15175)
                              Yes This is what mine looks like the script is ths same the add and fill marks are as per this picture. thanks Ronnie
                              Ronnie------


                              This is an old dipstick but I can't say if it's exactly correct in every way for a 1970 small block. The "MS" oil standard dates back to the 60's. The API "SE" was used from 1971-79.

                              The measurements I have are as follows as were made from a known GM #3862730 dipstick:

                              measured from bottom of "bell" to "full"mark = 19-1/2" and to "add"mark= 20-1/4"

                              measured from top of "bell" to "full"mark=20-1/16" and to "add"mark = 20-13/16"

                              The specs in the GM P&A Catalog as well as the NCRS Judging guide are as follows:

                              to "full" mark=20-5/32" and to "add" mark= 20-59/64"

                              Take your pick
                              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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