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  • Donald M.
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    • March 27, 2015
    • 98

    C1 to C2 model designations

    Why aren't the 53 - 55 model years designated C1, and the 56 - 62 model years designated C2 giving us eight different Corvette iterations instead of seven? The 53 - 55 Corvettes vs. 56 - 62 Corvettes have clearly different body styles what with the 56 - 62s being the years of the cove.

    Don Moses
    Bayview, TX
    '54 Corvette (C1)
    '15 Corvette (C8)
  • Harry S.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 31, 2002
    • 5293

    #2
    Re: C1 to C2 model designations

    Don, the C designation is aligned to the chassis not the body.


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    • Mark E.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • April 1, 1993
      • 4525

      #3
      Re: C1 to C2 model designations

      Just go with it. The more you think about how the generations are defined, the more confusing it becomes.

      C1 has one chassis with three or more body styles, while C2 and C3 share one chassis with arguably fewer body styles between them.
      Mark Edmondson
      Dallas, Texas
      Texas Chapter

      1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
      1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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      • Michael W.
        Expired
        • April 1, 1997
        • 4290

        #4
        Re: C1 to C2 model designations

        Originally posted by Harry Sadlock (38513)
        Don, the C designation is aligned to the chassis not the body.
        The C2 and C3 share the same chassis.

        On the other hand, if every change to the body style resulted in a new C-designation we'd be at about C40 by now.

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        • Donald H.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • November 2, 2009
          • 2580

          #5
          Re: C1 to C2 model designations

          Or you could go with:

          C1-1 : 53 through 55
          C1-2 : 56 and 57
          C1-3 : 58 through 60
          C1-4 : 61 and 62

          Don Harris
          Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
          Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)

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          • Mark E.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • April 1, 1993
            • 4525

            #6
            Re: C1 to C2 model designations

            Good idea. Instead of generations, maybe versions and releases- like software.
            Mark Edmondson
            Dallas, Texas
            Texas Chapter

            1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
            1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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            • Donald M.
              Expired
              • March 27, 2015
              • 98

              #7
              Re: C1 to C2 model designations

              The design changes within the '56 to '62 are minor. To me, what distinguishes this group is the cove styling. It is markedly different from the '53 to '55 group.

              I wasn't suggesting that every little change be designated a new group. The current C2 group shows minor styling changes for each year, but the overall design is the same. Such is the case for each of the following groups, C2 through C7.

              I was unaware that the "C" referred to chassis. I thought it referred to Corvette. As Michael points out, the C2, C3 groups have the same chassis, but radically different styling. I remain unconvinced that "C" refers to chassis, but I am open to be schooled otherwise.

              Don Moses
              Bayview, TX

              Originally posted by Michael Ward (29001)
              The C2 and C3 share the same chassis.

              On the other hand, if every change to the body style resulted in a new C-designation we'd be at about C40 by now.

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              • Mark E.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • April 1, 1993
                • 4525

                #8
                Re: C1 to C2 model designations

                Originally posted by Donald G Moses (61076)
                I was unaware that the "C" referred to chassis. I thought it referred to Corvette...

                I wasn't suggesting that every little change be designated a new group. The current C2 group shows minor styling changes for each year, but the overall design is the same. Such is the case for each of the following groups, C2 through C7.

                Don Moses
                Bayview, TX
                I always heard "Corvette", not "Chassis".

                I think the C3 design changed just as much as the C1 over their lifespans. Love both of them.
                Mark Edmondson
                Dallas, Texas
                Texas Chapter

                1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                • David R.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • June 29, 2014
                  • 183

                  #9
                  Re: C1 to C2 model designations

                  There have been numerous attempts to rationalize, explain, and/or change the Corvette "C" generational designations. None have succeeded, and in my opinion it is extremely doubtful that any will. The existing designations are well-established and well-recognized. The solid-axle C1's, the "Mid-Year" C2's, the "Shark" C3's, etc., etc. We have learned to deal with an imperfect system, but any changes now would be arbitrary in the eye of the proposer based on his or her own perceptions of the differences between the generations. I was even able to explain the current system to my wife at a Corvette show where all generations were present, and she pretty much "got it". She still has some occasional problems distinguishing a C5 from a C6, and a C6 from a C7, but to her, the C1, C2, C3 and C4 are pretty distinctively different. Let's not re-invent the wheel.

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                  • Harry S.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • July 31, 2002
                    • 5293

                    #10
                    Re: C1 to C2 model designations

                    From this website.....

                    C

                    C1
                    1953 -1962 Corvettes. The solid axle or straight axle cars.
                    C2
                    1963 - 1967 Corvettes. Mid-years and Sting Ray years.
                    C3
                    1968 - 1982 Corvettes. Includes 1968 Shark, and 1969 - 1976 Stingray years.
                    C4
                    1983 - 1996 *note: There were no 1983 production cars due to plant change over from St. Louis to Bowling Green.
                    C5
                    1997 - 2004 Corvettes.
                    C6
                    2005 - and later Corvettes.

                    You could debate the C2/C3 split but there are some chassis differences. Otherwise all others have completely different chassis.


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                    • David R.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • June 29, 2014
                      • 183

                      #11
                      Re: C1 to C2 model designations

                      The changeover to the Bowling Green assembly plant from St. Louis occurred in 1981, and had little or nothing to do with the missing 1983 model year. And while the C2/C3 split could be debated (among others), the C2 kept the same basic body throughout its 1963-67 run, and while the 1968-1982 Corvettes changed considerably over the life cycle of that generation, the basic body, again, was the same - and very different from the C2. As I said before, many times the generational breakdown has been criticized & debated, but I don't think we're going to see it change.

                      Just my opinion, of course.

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                      • Donald M.
                        Expired
                        • March 27, 2015
                        • 98

                        #12
                        Re: C1 to C2 model designations

                        C3s look basically the same to me. They all have a wedge front end and coke bottle profile. Any styling changes within the old C3 group are minor compared to the change from 55 to 56 where I think a new C2 group should be created. Just saying.

                        D.

                        Originally posted by Mark Edmondson (22468)
                        I always heard "Corvette", not "Chassis".

                        I think the C3 design changed just as much as the C1 over their lifespans. Love both of them.

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                        • Donald M.
                          Expired
                          • March 27, 2015
                          • 98

                          #13
                          Re: C1 to C2 model designations

                          Well okay then. Status Quo it is.

                          D.

                          Originally posted by David Reeves (60174)
                          The changeover to the Bowling Green assembly plant from St. Louis occurred in 1981, and had little or nothing to do with the missing 1983 model year. And while the C2/C3 split could be debated (among others), the C2 kept the same basic body throughout its 1963-67 run, and while the 1968-1982 Corvettes changed considerably over the life cycle of that generation, the basic body, again, was the same - and very different from the C2. As I said before, many times the generational breakdown has been criticized & debated, but I don't think we're going to see it change.

                          Just my opinion, of course.

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                          • Michael W.
                            Expired
                            • April 1, 1997
                            • 4290

                            #14
                            Re: C1 to C2 model designations

                            Originally posted by Donald G Moses (61076)
                            C3s look basically the same to me. They all have a wedge front end and coke bottle profile. Any styling changes within the old C3 group are minor compared to the change from 55 to 56 where I think a new C2 group should be created. Just saying.

                            D.
                            I solved the problem by not using the terminology for anything older than a C4.

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                            • Rick A.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • July 31, 2002
                              • 2147

                              #15
                              Re: C1 to C2 model designations

                              everything you wanted to know - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Corvette
                              Rick Aleshire
                              2016 Ebony C7R Z06 "ROSA"

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