1963 Carter 3461S Carburetor
Hello everyone, I just recently joined the NCRS and this is my first message, hope I'm doing this correctly. I purchased my 1963 Coupe in November of 2015. It is a 327/300, with a manual transmission and a build date of June 21,1963. The carburetor that's on my car, I know, is a Carter because the name "Carter" is on it. I can't make out any numbers because their either not there or rusted over. I've looked at 3461S Carters on the internet and the one that's on the car is different. I am looking to purchase a Carter 3461S that has a Date Code of CE3. Will this Date Code (CE3)work with my car? Thanks, Kenneth
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Re: 1963 Carter 3461S Carburetor
Kenneth;
I Have a BA3 on my July 9 build and was told I was ok. Believe the rule of thumb is 6 months, but better we get a more professional opinion from the judges on high. I don't care anymore because it took me a long long time to find the one I have and I won't have my car judged again. My original was stolen and replaced with a 3720SA. I wanted a 3461S model back because it is more of a performance model better suited for my L-76 340hp than a 3720/21 series (different jetting, air bleeds, no swirl tabs, small vapor vents and air valve weights, etc.).
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Re: 1963 Carter 3461S Carburetor
Beware of restamps. Most of the 3269s I have looked at on ebay are restamps, even from the big boys. You need a crash course in spotting them.Comment
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Stu,
Thanks for the reply...I did not know about the 6 month rule. As far as I know the carburetor I'm looking at, which has a date code of CE3, is the month of May. I believe...do you go by the "E'' in the CE3? Which would put me a month before the build date of my car of June. Does this sound correct?
Thanks again, KennethComment
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That sounds correct and is much more typical than the 6 month outer limit for 'correctness'...Comment
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Robert,
Thanks for the reply...That sounds scary concerning restamps. What do you look for to protect yourself?
Thanks again, KennethComment
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Hello Frank,
I'm learning, thanks for helping me...on a date stamps"CE3" is the "C" or the"E" the month? I don't trust my knowledge right now. If the "E" is for the month of May, I believe, then what's the "C" represent? Is the "3" for the year 1963?
Thanks, KennethComment
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Re: 1963 Carter 3461S Carburetor
The CE3 C = reversion, E = May, 3 =year, but that is the esay part. At least on 1962's 3269s there is flashing on the pad, at about 9 o'clock and again at 5 o'clock. The 5 o'clock is a small rectangle alomg the lower edge. At 9 o'clock it is rough on the vertical edge. If the pad is smooth all around then the flashing and the numbers have been ground off and restamped. Post a picture.Comment
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I just looked on ebay and the same seller has the first two I looked at.
This is probably OK
This is a restamp. There is no flashing on the pad (picture #2). Someone has taken a file or a chisel and scratched up the pad to make it look like flashing.
Can you see the flashing at 5 o'clock, that's good, also a good date for you.
It seems the 3461s doesn't have the flashing at 9 o'clock like the 3269s does.Comment
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Thanks Robert for your replies,
I'm having a hard time seeing and understanding what "Flashing" is, also where 5 o'clock and 9 o'clock are. I think I understand they're positions on the carburetor as they relate to those positions on the face of a clock. Is this correct? I looked at the carburetors in the links on eBay you provided. The carburetor that I'm thinking about purchasing is being sold by the seller in the first two links.
Kenneth HatcherComment
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Re: 1963 Carter 3461S Carburetor
Kenneth,
I've never heard the term flashing either but I did look at the ebay links you provided. You may want to ask for some references before purchasing from that vendor. I personally have never bought from him but many on this board are familiar with him. The first two carburetors look like they have a painted finish on them.
I always thought the dating on the Carter's was week month and year so CE3 is third week of May 1963 and should work for your application.Comment
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Thanks Bob,
Would it be improper of me to ask for a suggested vendor or seller so to know who to go to?
Kenneth HatcherComment
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Re: 1963 Carter 3461S Carburetor
Re-stamps should not even be suspected for 3461s's if the obvious is clear; look for the vapor vent holes next to the emulsion screws (inboard), also in the secondaries. The only carbs close to the 3461s are the 3720 series replacements of later years and they do not have the vapor vent holes. Look at the front of the carb in the first eBay link and enlarge it, then you'll see what I'm talking about. If the carb has the vents it is surely a 3461s and there would be no reason to re-stamp it other than to change the date to be in range of a certain date code.
Stu FoxComment
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Re: 1963 Carter 3461S Carburetor
Kenneth, Would be nice if you could purchase the correct carburetor from someone who is recommended to you on this forum. Not knocking ebay sellers though.
For example: I work on FI units and will not buy one from an auction site unless I know the seller personally.
So now maybe someone here can recommend a carburetor restorer for you.
Bob Kunz in St. Louis comes to mind.
Contact the NCRS carburetor guru. Gary Hodges from Salem, OR. His info on page two of so of 'The Restorer". JohnComment
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