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  • Anthony S.
    Very Frequent User
    • April 30, 1998
    • 156

    Judging Laguna Blue paint

    Q: What is the judging standard for how Laguna Blue paint should appear to be? Thanks T
  • Michael J.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 27, 2009
    • 7122

    #2
    Re: Judging Laguna Blue paint

    This will be an interesting question, since in my experience, it is probably like Daytona Blue, it depends.........
    Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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    • Keith B.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • September 15, 2014
      • 1582

      #3
      Re: Judging Laguna Blue paint

      it has to appear has factory applied materials. how else would you judge it

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      • Anthony S.
        Very Frequent User
        • April 30, 1998
        • 156

        #4
        Re: Judging Laguna Blue paint

        Hi Keith, Yes, obviously, but looking for a accurate description of what this should be.... !

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        • Don H.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • December 1, 1981
          • 1487

          #5
          Re: Judging Laguna Blue paint

          Contact Tom Ames (info in the front of the Driveline), he is the National Paint Advisor and an extremely knowledgeable guy. Don H.

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          • Michael H.
            Very Frequent User
            • December 1, 1987
            • 727

            #6
            Re: Judging Laguna Blue paint

            Originally posted by Anthony Soltyka (30469)
            Q: What is the judging standard for how Laguna Blue paint should appear to be? Thanks T
            The "Judging Standard" was how the paint was applied like at the factory. I think you really asking about the color.

            Mike

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            • Tim E.
              Very Frequent User
              • April 1, 1993
              • 360

              #7
              Re: Judging Laguna Blue paint

              Anthony - I have a Laguna Blue car and have been through the process a number of times. To judge shade, the exterior team will need to be able to detect not only the blue but the burgundy, the black, and especially the green when they view the paint. These colors are a function of the metallics and how they lay in the painted surface. When I painted mine, I was still able to buy PPG Duracryl (acrylic lacquer) and compare to a sample of the original paint that I saved. I don't have any experience matching a modern urethane system to the original sample.

              Like the Daytona Blue that Mike refers to above, Laguna Blue is one of a handful of colors that look very different depending on the lighting conditions at the judging venue.....especially outdoors. Tim

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              • Michael J.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • January 27, 2009
                • 7122

                #8
                Re: Judging Laguna Blue paint

                Originally posted by Tim Ehlers (22449)

                Like the Daytona Blue that Mike refers to above, Laguna Blue is one of a handful of colors that look very different depending on the lighting conditions at the judging venue.....especially outdoors. Tim
                Exactly Tim, and that was what I was referring to, the lighting is critical, sodium vapor, mercury vapor, and florescent lights of various wattages and temperatures are almost worthless to judge in, a judge must get a look at these critical colors in the bright sunlight, since that is only consistent condition available, to judge it correctly. Mine had some inconsistent judging because of poor lighting.
                Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                • Joe R.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • July 31, 1976
                  • 4550

                  #9
                  Re: Judging Laguna Blue paint

                  Laguna Blue or Passion Pink paint doesn't matter which one is painted. You line up seven cars painted the same color, same day from different shops and they will all be different.
                  As above mentioned the temperature, humidity and paint source determines the color of the finished product.
                  The question is impossible to answer. Do the best you can and say a little prayer!

                  JR

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                  • Ara G.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • January 31, 2008
                    • 1108

                    #10
                    Re: Judging Laguna Blue paint

                    When Mitch and I judge exterior on the 67 team, if it's at an indoor event (Like Lakeland, Texas, etc) we always write on the top of the exterior judging sheets "Incandescent Fluorescent lighting, indoors, etc" so that the next set of judges and the owner are aware of the conditions we were working in. Trust me, Marlboro maroon, Marina Blue, etc are mother's to judge indoors.....Shade variation, etc is so hard indoors. ARA

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                    • Gary B.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • February 1, 1997
                      • 7019

                      #11
                      Re: Judging Laguna Blue paint

                      Ara,

                      Noting the lighting conditions on the judging sheets sounds like something every exterior judging team should do. Great idea.

                      Gary

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                      • Michael J.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • January 27, 2009
                        • 7122

                        #12
                        Re: Judging Laguna Blue paint

                        I know the best exterior judges I have ever had try to judge Ops too, so they see the cars in the sunlight outdoors, that is what should be required. There was a Warbonnet Yellow C3 at the Denver Nationals that looked pea soup green in the lights inside.
                        Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                        • Steven S.
                          Expired
                          • November 1, 1995
                          • 151

                          #13
                          Re: Judging Laguna Blue paint

                          Here is your problem in marching a blue - pigments have changed, no heavy metal pigments available in the US today. Flake size comes into play, original was very small flake. To get a perfect color match, you need the same pigments in the same ratios. If matched with today's pigments, you will get what is called a matamerizum (sp?). Which means the match may be fine under one light source but not a match under another i.e., good in sun light but off under fluorescent lights.

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