C2 Jack Handle (Lug Wrench) Rivet

[Michael H.]

A friend of mine and I are trying to figure out the correct configuration of the rivet connecting the two sections of a C2 Jack handle (a/k/a a lug wrench) -- arcane stuff, I know. We realize that the original jack handles have a concentric (or perhaps spiral) ring head, as shown at Photo #12-11 in the new '65 Judging Guide. We've observed that the bottom of the same rivet appears to show different configurations, sometimes consisting of a built-up pyramid shaped "glob," and other times looking more like a doughnut with a slightly depressed center area. None of the original rivet bottoms apparently resemble the rivet undersides used on the repro Jack handles, which appear to look more like the neat and tidy rivets seen on the original jacks (versus jack handles).

Can someone please post a couple of photos of original jack handle rivets, particularly the compressed bottom of the rivet. Also, does anyone know whether the configuration of the rivets (and thus presumably the method used to attach the rivets) on C2 Jack handles changed over the years, thus perhaps accounting for differences in appearance between the pyramid "glob" versus the doughnut shaped rivet bottoms. If so, what configuration would one expect to see on a '64 lug wrench? Thanks as always in advance.

[Edward J.]

Re: C2 Jack Handle (Lug Wrench) Rivet

Here are a couple of pic.s of my 63 I think 64 is the same. unless you have Knock Offs they have a deeper socket.


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[Enzo C.]

Re: C2 Jack Handle (Lug Wrench) Rivet

Here are a few pics to chime in to the thread. image.jpg image.jpg

[Russ S.]

Re: C2 Jack Handle (Lug Wrench) Rivet

This is the first time in thirty five years of judging and C2 ownership that I have heard of KOs wrenches having a deeper socket. Any pictures of one out there?

Here are a couple of pic.s of my 63 I think 64 is the same. unless you have Knock Offs they have a deeper socket.


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[Edward J.]

Re: C2 Jack Handle (Lug Wrench) Rivet

Russ, In Enzo's pic.'s I believe the top one has a deeper socket.

[Russ S.]

Re: C2 Jack Handle (Lug Wrench) Rivet

The picture doesn't convince me. I would need to see better comparisons than those pics.

[Alan D.]

Re: C2 Jack Handle (Lug Wrench) Rivet

It has been my understanding that when an option is called for, such as the P48 KO wheels, the AIM lists the different items to be installed.
For the 1964, P48 option calls out "Prod Jack Asm." It appears that only a Hammer Asm, 3819530, and Jacking Instruction Sheet, 3794463, was added to the stowage area, see Sect P48, sheet 2.00
As for different depth sockets they seem to vary a little by year and mfg, not a lot.
Know we have some experts on KO's so perhaps they will chime in?

[Edward J.]

Re: C2 Jack Handle (Lug Wrench) Rivet

I always thought because the lugs on the knock off wheels were longer that this required a deeper socket on wrench, I thought I remember reading this somewhere, Restorer??

[Edward J.]

Re: C2 Jack Handle (Lug Wrench) Rivet

Russ, you are correct there are only 3 part Numbers for GM lug wrench's and I found a 2013 article in the restorer which gives you the details on jacks and lug wrench's.

[Russ S.]

Re: C2 Jack Handle (Lug Wrench) Rivet

Thanks Ed. The wrench will still go on as far with the long nuts as it does with the short ones. It's just that if they had made a long lug wrench it would have utilized more of the long nut. Wouldn't have been a bad idea.