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  • Wayne M.
    Expired
    • March 1, 1980
    • 6414

    Carb-gasket-intake Q

    Photo below is of my 396 set-up: factory intake 3866963; LIST 3124 carb (but w/ 1968 service date); and the gasket Gr 3.270 # 3955527, which is called out in the AIM, and the P&A30 parts books. (Google "Dr.Rebuild" & the part # and you will see the GM engineering drawing of this gasket).

    My question is: why use a full gasket for open plenum, when the base plate of the carb has 4 distinct throttle bores, and the intake manifold has two matching holes (driver side), each directing fuel/air mixture to the upper level of the divided intake plenum, while the oval bore (passenger side) directs the mixture to the lower level.

    I was wondering why they didn't specify a gasket to match the manifold openings (at least), but then I see that the center plenum divider is cast (not machined) to be lower than the gasket contact surface, so any hole-matching gasket would have an internal leak to or from driver side to passenger.

    Guess I'm looking for a Carb / Manifolds 101 explanation, [and I'm also probably using the wrong terms].
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  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43220

    #2
    Re: Carb-gasket-intake Q

    Originally posted by Wayne Midkiff (3437)
    Photo below is of my 396 set-up: factory intake 3866963; LIST 3124 carb (but w/ 1968 service date); and the gasket Gr 3.270 # 3955527, which is called out in the AIM, and the P&A30 parts books. (Google "Dr.Rebuild" & the part # and you will see the GM engineering drawing of this gasket).

    My question is: why use a full gasket for open plenum, when the base plate of the carb has 4 distinct throttle bores, and the intake manifold has two matching holes (driver side), each directing fuel/air mixture to the upper level of the divided intake plenum, while the oval bore (passenger side) directs the mixture to the lower level.

    I was wondering why they didn't specify a gasket to match the manifold openings (at least), but then I see that the center plenum divider is cast (not machined) to be lower than the gasket contact surface, so any hole-matching gasket would have an internal leak to or from driver side to passenger.

    Guess I'm looking for a Carb / Manifolds 101 explanation, [and I'm also probably using the wrong terms].

    Wayne------


    For one thing, I don't understand how gasket GM #3955527 could have been called out in the 1965 AIM. That part number did not even exist until 1969. On top of that, GM #3955527 was an intake gasket set for rectangular port heads and not a carb gasket.

    The original L-78 carb gasket was GM #3868827. That was discontinued in February, 1968 and replaced by GM #3881847. The latter was discontinued in December, 1973 and replaced by GM #682914 which was discontinued without supersession about 20 years ago. I do not know how these gaskets differ.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Wayne M.
      Expired
      • March 1, 1980
      • 6414

      #3
      Re: Carb-gasket-intake Q

      Sorry Joe, others. That 3955527 was a gasket "unit" (center, 2 ends, 2 exh. pipe), as you say. Carb gasket itself # 3868827 (as you say) found in Gr 3.726.

      Here's the direct Doc rebuild web page link, for the original L78 gasket:

      1965 Corvette 425 HP Carb to Intake Manifold Gasket Repro Of GM 3868827 also used on 1965 Chevrolet Passenger 396 with Sp HiPer. No individual bores, instead one large rectangular bore that matches the intake.


      Question remains the same: would like an explanation for the gasket vs. carb base vs. intake geometry differences.

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      • Mark E.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • April 1, 1993
        • 4540

        #4
        Re: Carb-gasket-intake Q

        Wayne,

        I can't answer your question completely, but-

        - A lot of GM cars (and probably other makes too) have an open carb gasket even though the intake plenum opening isn't open.

        - One contributing reason for an open gasket is to provide a vacuum signal to various ports located in bottom of the carb's base plate. I'm not sure about Holleys, but Q-Jets have ports between the primary bores that provide vacuum to the power valve and other subsystems. I've seen Q-Jet cars run like crap because an incorrect 4-hole or 3-hole gasket was obstructing these ports.

        So don't underestimate the importance of installing the correct gasket, even if it doesn't "look right".
        Mark Edmondson
        Dallas, Texas
        Texas Chapter

        1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
        1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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