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  • Paul S.
    Very Frequent User
    • October 29, 2015
    • 203

    Correct heater hoses for a '69 small block w/o AC?

    Hi all,

    Does anyone have photos of original heater hoses for a '69 small block w/o AC? If not, how about photos of ones that passed judging?

    I have been looking around, and I see a variety of hoses being offered as "correct". Despite what many of the catalogs show, I know that mine should not have GM logos on them. What should the ribs look like, though? I have searched on this forum, and although there is a lot of discussion around this topic, I can't find any photos that help.

    I recently picked up some 3/4" and 5/8" NOS GM hoses that have ribs on them (pic attached below). Would these pass judging on my '69? There is no lettering on these hoses.

    Hose.jpg


    Thanks in advance for any help,
    Paul
  • Leif A.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • August 31, 1997
    • 3603

    #2
    Re: Correct heater hoses for a '69 small block w/o AC?

    The good Doctor sells it by the foot or as a two piece kit. I would order online (my preference).
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    • Paul S.
      Very Frequent User
      • October 29, 2015
      • 203

      #3
      Re: Correct heater hoses for a '69 small block w/o AC?

      Originally posted by Leif Anderson (29632)
      The good Doctor sells it by the foot or as a two piece kit. I would order online (my preference).
      http://www.docrebuild.com/dr-r-web/heater-hoses.HTML
      Thanks, Leif! The 5/8" hose shown at that link looks like the NOS GM hose that I have, but the 3/4" hose does not. (The hose I have has the same rib pattern on both the 5/8" and 3/4" hoses.)

      Is there agreement that the hoses Dr. Rebuild is selling are correct and will pass judging?


      Thanks again,
      Paul

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      • Leif A.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • August 31, 1997
        • 3603

        #4
        Re: Correct heater hoses for a '69 small block w/o AC?

        Paul,
        I'm not a judge and can't answer that question. Personally, I have bought quite a few items from the Doc and they have all passed muster. He professes to use the original GM blueprints to manufacture these hoses (and, many other items).
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        • Paul S.
          Very Frequent User
          • October 29, 2015
          • 203

          #5
          Re: Correct heater hoses for a '69 small block w/o AC?

          Here is a better pic of the NOS GM hoses that I recently picked up. The 3/4" one is on top, and the 5/8" one is on the bottom:

          Hose.jpg

          What does everyone think? Will these judge correctly on my '69 small block w/o AC, or should I go with the reproduction ones from Dr. Rebuild instead?


          Thanks,
          Paul

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          • Patrick H.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • November 30, 1989
            • 11603

            #6
            Re: Correct heater hoses for a '69 small block w/o AC?

            Any dates or markings on them?

            They look similar to the ones I purchased a few years ago to put on my 1970 Cutlass. I suspect that they are recent GM stock, not 40 year old parts. NOS doesn't always mean the part originally installed 45 years ago; in fact, for the majority of our cars what are sold as NOS are service replacement parts.

            If you know a bit more about the part history or where it was purchased, that would help.

            But would I deduct for them? Not likely.
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            • Paul S.
              Very Frequent User
              • October 29, 2015
              • 203

              #7
              Re: Correct heater hoses for a '69 small block w/o AC?

              Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
              Any dates or markings on them?
              Nope, no dates or markings on them besides the ribs. They had GM stickers on them, but the printing was mostly worn off and no date was visible. I agree that they most likely are not 45 years old. I was just hoping that they were old enough to still be like the original configuration.

              So with all that said, do you think I should stick with them, or would the reproduction ones sold by Dr. Rebuild be more correct? Is it known that the ribs on the ones he sells are like the originals?


              Thanks,
              Paul

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              • Terry M.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • September 30, 1980
                • 15569

                #8
                Re: Correct heater hoses for a '69 small block w/o AC?

                Originally posted by Paul Shatlock (61745)
                Here is a better pic of the NOS GM hoses that I recently picked up. The 3/4" one is on top, and the 5/8" one is on the bottom:

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                What does everyone think? Will these judge correctly on my '69 small block w/o AC, or should I go with the reproduction ones from Dr. Rebuild instead?


                Thanks,
                Paul
                It is hard to tell from that picture, but those look like raised ribs. That might be an optical illusion from the photo.

                The early C3 original hoses I have seen have grooves in them, not raised ridges. I deduct for raised ridges (Configuration).
                Terry

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                • Paul S.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • October 29, 2015
                  • 203

                  #9
                  Re: Correct heater hoses for a '69 small block w/o AC?

                  Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                  It is hard to tell from that picture, but those look like raised ribs. That might be an optical illusion from the photo.

                  The early C3 original hoses I have seen have grooves in them, not raised ridges. I deduct for raised ridges (Configuration).
                  They are actually grooves, not raised ribs. There are 4 grooves close together and a 5th groove a little farther apart from the others.

                  Sorry, I should have been more clear in my description.

                  Thanks,
                  Paul

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                  • Terry M.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • September 30, 1980
                    • 15569

                    #10
                    Re: Correct heater hoses for a '69 small block w/o AC?

                    Originally posted by Paul Shatlock (61745)
                    They are actually grooves, not raised ribs. There are 4 grooves close together and a 5th groove a little farther apart from the others.

                    Sorry, I should have been more clear in my description.

                    Thanks,
                    Paul
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                    Terry

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                    • Jeffrey S.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • May 31, 1988
                      • 1878

                      #11
                      Re: Correct heater hoses for a '69 small block w/o AC?

                      Paul,
                      These are hoses I purchased at Carlisle last year from New York RestoMod located in Farmingdale, NY. These are for a A/C car with molded ends but the ribs (or grooves) appear to be like your NOS hoses. I don't know if they sell straight hoses by the foot or if they sell exactly what you need but at least this is another resource to try. Their phone is 800-913-3511 web is newyorkrestomod.com
                      Jeff
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