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  • William M.
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    • August 31, 1974
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    "A L" Wheel Weight Usage on 1963-66 Knock-off Wheels and 1967 Bolt-on Wheels?

    What is your expert opinion as to the "A L" wheel weight usage on the 1963-66 Corvette aluminum knock-off wheel and the 1967 Corvette aluminum bolt-on wheel(sizes in ounces,placement(front and/or rear) and etc.)?
    Bill Mock #93
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  • Kevin G.
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    • February 1, 2005
    • 1076

    #2
    Re: "A L" Wheel Weight Usage on 1963-66 Knock-off Wheels and 1967 Bolt-on Wheels?

    Originally posted by William Mock (93)
    What is your expert opinion as to the "A L" wheel weight usage on the 1963-66 Corvette aluminum knock-off wheel and the 1967 Corvette aluminum bolt-on wheel(sizes in ounces,placement(front and/or rear) and etc.)?
    Bill Mock #93
    Mr. Mock,

    If you're interesting in acquiring some, send me an email at delvalncrssec@aol.com

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    • Gary B.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • February 1, 1997
      • 7014

      #3
      Re: "A L" Wheel Weight Usage on 1963-66 Knock-off Wheels and 1967 Bolt-on Wheels?

      Bill,

      That looks like the correct weight for C2 aluminum wheels to me.

      Gary

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      • Ara G.
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        • January 31, 2008
        • 1108

        #4
        Re: "A L" Wheel Weight Usage on 1963-66 Knock-off Wheels and 1967 Bolt-on Wheels?

        Bill, those are real deal items to me. I have a set of NOS ones, and it took me years to find a set. A good friend found some, and was nice enough to throw some my way. AL weights were configured differently than the common micro's. Also, no wings on the AL weights. Also, ounce designations on each ear. Nice...ARA

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        • Gary B.
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          • February 1, 1997
          • 7014

          #5
          Re: "A L" Wheel Weight Usage on 1963-66 Knock-off Wheels and 1967 Bolt-on Wheels?

          Originally posted by Ara Gechijian (48542)
          Bill, those are real deal items to me. I have a set of NOS ones, and it took me years to find a set. A good friend found some, and was nice enough to throw some my way. AL weights were configured differently than the common micro's. Also, no wings on the AL weights. Also, ounce designations on each ear. Nice...ARA
          Ara,

          You say "no wings on the AL weights". Are you saying the AL weights were made by Bada, makers of the MICRO weights with wings?

          Gary

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          • Alan D.
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            • January 1, 2005
            • 2038

            #6
            Re: "A L" Wheel Weight Usage on 1963-66 Knock-off Wheels and 1967 Bolt-on Wheels?

            Mark Lincoln did a Restorer article some time ago (bet it was 10 years now) on the subject. He's the only one to catch my steel wheel weight on my KO, but most people do not notice.

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            • Ara G.
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              • January 31, 2008
              • 1108

              #7
              Re: "A L" Wheel Weight Usage on 1963-66 Knock-off Wheels and 1967 Bolt-on Wheels?

              Mark is a sharp guy, after all he's gotta be being from Mass....
              Gary, I will post some pics (if I can figure out how to do it) or at minimum email you pics of my weights. Not sure of the manufacturer of the original AL weights, but they do not have wings like the micro's...I know that for sure...I have one in each size, so it gives us a good date base to review...Regards...ARA

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              • Gary B.
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                • February 1, 1997
                • 7014

                #8
                Re: "A L" Wheel Weight Usage on 1963-66 Knock-off Wheels and 1967 Bolt-on Wheels?

                Originally posted by Ara Gechijian (48542)
                Mark is a sharp guy, after all he's gotta be being from Mass....
                Gary, I will post some pics (if I can figure out how to do it) or at minimum email you pics of my weights. Not sure of the manufacturer of the original AL weights, but they do not have wings like the micro's...I know that for sure...I have one in each size, so it gives us a good date base to review...Regards...ARA
                Ara,

                I only asked about the association to the MICRO weights by Bada because the A L weights don't look similar enough to any of the weights used on C2 steel wheels for me to guess as who made the A L weights. It could turn out to that Bada made the A L weights, but I just don't know know for certain. If someone has some A L weights in the manufacturer's box we'd know from that, but I've never seen any NOS A L weights in the original box come up for sale on e-bay, so we may never know.

                Gary

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                • Ara G.
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                  • January 31, 2008
                  • 1108

                  #9
                  Re: "A L" Wheel Weight Usage on 1963-66 Knock-off Wheels and 1967 Bolt-on Wheels?

                  Gary, they came in cloth bags with GM labels and GM part numbers on them. That's all I've seen....I have a pic of that too...Gotta post them up or get them to someone who can post for me...

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                  • Gary B.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • February 1, 1997
                    • 7014

                    #10
                    Re: "A L" Wheel Weight Usage on 1963-66 Knock-off Wheels and 1967 Bolt-on Wheels?

                    Originally posted by Ara Gechijian (48542)
                    Gary, they came in cloth bags with GM labels and GM part numbers on them. That's all I've seen....I have a pic of that too...Gotta post them up or get them to someone who can post for me...
                    Ara,

                    I've seen photos of the cloth bag. I think there's a photo in the BD archives. But the weights almost certainly were made by some supplier for GM, and likely by one of the 5 or 6 known suppliers who provided weights to GM for steel wheels. My question is, which one.

                    Gary

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                    • Mark L.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • July 31, 1989
                      • 560

                      #11
                      Re: "A L" Wheel Weight Usage on 1963-66 Knock-off Wheels and 1967 Bolt-on Wheels?

                      Thanks Ara! At least I fool some of the folks.
                      I believe I had a picture of the cloth bag in the article. Jerry Cribbs provided an NOS set to me for the article. Photos of the weights and a cross section which shows the difference between the types of weights are also in the new midyear manuals.

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                      • Wayne M.
                        Expired
                        • March 1, 1980
                        • 6414

                        #12
                        Re: "A L" Wheel Weight Usage on 1963-66 Knock-off Wheels and 1967 Bolt-on Wheels?

                        Hi Bill --- pulled one wheel out one of my set of 5 KO's from VIN 6S113162

                        Never noticed it before. Check how it fits the contour of the inner rim. Is this original ? Is the weight too small for wings ?



                        Can't figure out why the double picture post
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                        • Mark D.
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                          • June 30, 1988
                          • 2149

                          #13
                          Re: "A L" Wheel Weight Usage on 1963-66 Knock-off Wheels and 1967 Bolt-on Wheels?

                          A pic from Frank Tetro...

                          Kramden

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                          • Kevin G.
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                            • February 1, 2005
                            • 1076

                            #14
                            Re: "A L" Wheel Weight Usage on 1963-66 Knock-off Wheels and 1967 Bolt-on Wheels?

                            Hi Gary,

                            My research reveals the exact face profile exists between the 'AL' weights and the weights stamped with the Diamond Shape w/ the initials LH inside. Without going back to my PowerPoint Presentation, I'm unable provide the company's name. If needed I can go back to my prior work. I have compared an 'AL' to over twenty five different brands, none of the other are anywhere close.

                            For all, don't be confused by the 'AL' as an abbreviation for aluminum constructed weights. The weights are made using the same lead/mixture as all of the others, as well as using the same steel material for the clips. The 'AL' pertains to the shape of the rear side of the weight for use only on aluminum wheels. During this time the word electrolysis, while included in the dictionary was not a concern of the manufacturers. Those of you that run these wheels should be able to verify this use of different metals by the marks left on the wheels after removing the original weights. It would take some work to remove these marks. Also evident of rust on the aged clips.

                            This differs from the clip on weights that are being used today. Today's 'AL' marked weights are intended for use on the current aluminum wheels but the weights have been coated to remove the contact between to different metals. Of course this is also the practice that can be found with the current stick on weights.

                            Hope this helps, and to throw some of you a bone, the OP's agenda was to prompt a visit to reveal his advertisement listing in the NCRS classified section to sell some weights.....

                            To those that have contacted me by email, your patience is appreciated.

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                            • Gary B.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • February 1, 1997
                              • 7014

                              #15
                              Re: "A L" Wheel Weight Usage on 1963-66 Knock-off Wheels and 1967 Bolt-on Wheels?

                              Kevin,

                              I can tell you that the LH (inside the diamond border) weights were not made by Bada, nor Perfect Equipment, nor Speed Clip Manufacturing Corp. (AKA Plumbism Manufacturing Corp.). The LH weights could have been made by two other vendors who supplied GM in the 60s, Wheel Weights Inc. or Salmon Inc/Corp, but I have no further information to nail it down to one of them, or another yet nknown company. If you have info on the maker of the LH logo'ed weights I'd love to know it.
                              Gary

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