"Knocking Down" door jambs for judging

[Frank D.]

I found some Rustoleum Satin Clear Enamel I tried out under the sill plates...it does an amazing job of making the super glossy paint look unbuffed. I was actually a little shocked at the "factory" effect that I got.

I shot a little around the bottom of the front and rear valences and it really does the job. (No, I'm not lame enough to try to fool
judges with hair spray.)...

With a week or so until Lakeland I just can't bring myself to shoot that stuff on the door jambs. I know I'll hate it once the judging is over. So, I wonder how big a hit that is. I've searched on here and heard everything from the full 85 points to 20 points...and everything in between.

[Bob R.]

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I think it's up to the judge you get but they certainly look for the dull finish in the door openings and the hood edge. If they feel the paint is not typical factory finish they could take 80 points but if an effort is made to dull the jambs the deduct goes down. There are a lot of variables in judging the paint. You may have the jambs done properly but still lose points because the paint finish is not typical factory most cars these days are over restored. The factory paint job was not very good. You could dull the jambs and buff them out after judging.

[Don H.]

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or you could make them look factory by using your Rustoleum Satin Clear Enamel and still lose all points because you telegraphed your actions directly to your judges by publicizing them here.

[Frank D.]

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The method used shouldn't matter if it "appears factory" - that's my understanding...
Same reason a judge isn't allowed to ask you what type of paint is on the car's exterior - its irrelevant if the factory effect is achieved...
It could be nail polish applied with a sponge as long as it looks correct.

This is my understanding.

Bob: I doubt I'd be able to "buff up" that Satin Clearcoat once its dried.

[Michael J.]

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Exterior judging in that class, IMO, is a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get because of the different judges. Good luck, whatever you do.

[Edward J.]

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The method used shouldn't matter if it "appears factory" - that's my understanding...
Same reason a judge isn't allowed to ask you what type of paint is on the car's exterior - its irrelevant if the factory effect is achieved...
It could be nail polish applied with a sponge as long as it looks correct.

This is my understanding.

Bob: I doubt I'd be able to "buff up" that Satin Clearcoat once its dried.

Frank, your correct, the exterior paint just has to have the appearance of factory applied paint, If you think it looks okay then the Jams are not judged, until the interior guys look at the jams and underside of deck lid. If you decide to apply satin clear, I believe it can be removed with some mineral spirits.

[Gene M.]

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Any judge that can count to ten without using his fingers or toes is NOT going to go for the cleared over door jambs or any other area that s/b unbuffed. The appearance s/b unbuffed color paint without a coating over it. Also note unbuffed lacquer does have a minimal sheen to it but not shiny.

[Edward J.]

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Gene, your a buzz kill !! I was thinking that the new change with paint judging gives just a little more leeway for the factory APPEARANCE. As we know there really is no more lacquer with the lead to give that clouded over look.I myself really know just how good the factory lacquer paint jobs can look as I did car reconditioning on the side back then, and they can look like glass once buffed and waxed, so those cars that left the factory looked just as good as a over restored car, at least for a few weeks before the elements came into play from being outdoors. so the over restored cars can at least claim some of the paint points.

[Bill L.]

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How about using some custom mixed satin clear lacquer? Once judging is complete use lacquer thinner to remove.

Bill

[Frank D.]

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I know how the jambs are supposed to look; I'm old enough to have seen the real thing and I was a lot boy for my Dad for a few years in the '60s -- seen a lot of vintage paint close up and personal with a buffer and polishing compound (* UGH *). No jambs shouldn't be 'dead flat' but yet not 'semi-gloss' - sorta hard to describe but I know the look.

I was more or less asking about the point 'hit' for glossy jams and after much research have found there is no straight-up answer. The paint judging 'flow chart' could bounce the judging between the EXTERIOR section or the INTERIOR section and it looks like if the jambs become an issue for the EXTERIOR judges; then your paint points were dead on arrival already.

[Kevin S.]

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.....and don't forget to address the trunk area too (for you C1 guys).
Kevin

[Harry S.]

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or you could make them look factory by using your Rustoleum Satin Clear Enamel and still lose all points because you telegraphed your actions directly to your judges by publicizing them here.

Now Now, we judge a car as presented that day, prior knowledge is not allowed.

[Timothy B.]

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Frank,

Remember that line we talked about a few weeks ago. You may be there!!

[Don H.]

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Now Now, we judge a car as presented that day, prior knowledge is not allowed.

yes,
of course we do.

[Michael J.]

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yes,
of course we do.