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  • Mike E.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • February 28, 1975
    • 5132

    Exact engine painting method, 1967 L79

    I'm playing with a 30k mile 67 L79 convertible. It was parked in 1974, and the original motor is seized from sitting. The motor has never been apart, (the intake has been removed and put on a different engine) and still has the intake gasket with GM on the tab, etc. Steel head gaskets, etc. This engine was a major oil leaker. I'm slowly and carefully trying to remove all the crust without losing any original markings.
    What exactly was the sequence of painting, and what was masked, what had boots on it, etc? I'm finding areas of very little orange paint, and areas of orange paint drips. No paint on areas of the timing chain cover behind the water pump, etc.Also finding evidence of silver mist overspray on the heads.
    help me understand sequence, method, etc. I realize the way it was intended vs. how the line workers actually did it was not one and the same, and this was prior to robotic painting.
    Thanks for whatever help you can share!
  • Joe R.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • May 31, 2006
    • 1822

    #2
    Re: Exact engine painting method, 1967 L79

    Originally posted by Mike Ernst (211)
    I'm playing with a 30k mile 67 L79 convertible. It was parked in 1974, and the original motor is seized from sitting. The motor has never been apart, (the intake has been removed and put on a different engine) and still has the intake gasket with GM on the tab, etc. Steel head gaskets, etc. This engine was a major oil leaker. I'm slowly and carefully trying to remove all the crust without losing any original markings.
    What exactly was the sequence of painting, and what was masked, what had boots on it, etc? I'm finding areas of very little orange paint, and areas of orange paint drips. No paint on areas of the timing chain cover behind the water pump, etc.Also finding evidence of silver mist overspray on the heads.
    help me understand sequence, method, etc. I realize the way it was intended vs. how the line workers actually did it was not one and the same, and this was prior to robotic painting.
    Thanks for whatever help you can share!
    Mike,

    Here's a thread I started a while back on BB engine painting, but it contains some good info by John Hinckley on how Flint painted the SB.



    Joe

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    • Joe R.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • May 31, 2006
      • 1822

      #3
      Re: Exact engine painting method, 1967 L79

      Originally posted by Mike Ernst (211)
      I'm playing with a 30k mile 67 L79 convertible. It was parked in 1974, and the original motor is seized from sitting. The motor has never been apart, (the intake has been removed and put on a different engine) and still has the intake gasket with GM on the tab, etc. Steel head gaskets, etc. This engine was a major oil leaker. I'm slowly and carefully trying to remove all the crust without losing any original markings.
      What exactly was the sequence of painting, and what was masked, what had boots on it, etc? I'm finding areas of very little orange paint, and areas of orange paint drips. No paint on areas of the timing chain cover behind the water pump, etc.Also finding evidence of silver mist overspray on the heads.
      help me understand sequence, method, etc. I realize the way it was intended vs. how the line workers actually did it was not one and the same, and this was prior to robotic painting.
      Thanks for whatever help you can share!
      Mike,

      Here's another BB thread that has some SB info as well:



      Joe

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      • Richard M.
        Super Moderator
        • August 31, 1988
        • 11299

        #4
        Re: Exact engine painting method, 1967 L79

        Mike, This is great! I'd love to see it after cleaning. That had some major grungy goo on it when I saw it. Please take photos as you progress, and I want a CD !!!!!

        You want me to post a few of the "before" pics, or do you want to hold off for now.

        This is gonna be a GREAT THREAD!

        Rich

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        • Mike E.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • February 28, 1975
          • 5132

          #5
          Re: Exact engine painting method, 1967 L79

          Thanks, Joe, for those two links. I'd still like to find greater specificity regarding the L79, although many of the BB principles come into play.

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          • Joe R.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • May 31, 2006
            • 1822

            #6
            Re: Exact engine painting method, 1967 L79

            Originally posted by Mike Ernst (211)
            Thanks, Joe, for those two links. I'd still like to find greater specificity regarding the L79, although many of the BB principles come into play.
            Mike,

            You're welcome! I hesitated to post those, but you had zero replies after a day or so. I figured something was better than nothing and it would at least bump you to the top of the heap. I hope you get the L79 info you really need!

            Joe

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            • Richard M.
              Super Moderator
              • August 31, 1988
              • 11299

              #7
              Re: Exact engine painting method, 1967 L79

              Mike probably not much help, but.....

              Here a re a few from a '63 300HP 67k miles before I cleaned it. I found yellow paint under much of the orange. Primer maybe? The heads were changed though so not sure if it's all original orange.
              PC080001.jpgPC080002.jpgPC080003.jpgPC090004.jpgPC090005.jpgP1010011.jpgPC140010.jpgPC080009.jpg


              These from a low mileage convertible. Unknown history of paint. (yes.... wrong MC cover)
              P2270001.jpgP2270002.jpgP2270009.jpgP2270012.jpgP2270013.jpgP2270014.jpgp2270026.jpgP2270035.jpg

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              • Patrick H.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • November 30, 1989
                • 11602

                #8
                Re: Exact engine painting method, 1967 L79

                Mike,

                Under "similar threads" at the bottom of the page is one about 66 aluminum intake manifolds, which will be the same.
                You may want to search under engine painting, or intake paint. There are a lot of older threads with photos on how others have done this and what the factory did on day 1.

                Patrick
                Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                71 "deer modified" coupe
                72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                2008 coupe
                Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                • Richard M.
                  Super Moderator
                  • August 31, 1988
                  • 11299

                  #9
                  Re: Exact engine painting method, 1967 L79

                  Did some Archive searching......

                  Searched engine AND paint Titles only....

                  70 LT1


                  Misc 66 327.....



                  1964 paint scheme....


                  These are just a few. The Search above found 137 Archived threads Titles only.

                  I read that no primer was used so the yellow on he engine from our '63 will remain a mystery.

                  Rich

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                  • Mike E.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • February 28, 1975
                    • 5132

                    #10
                    Re: Exact engine painting method, 1967 L79

                    Thanks guys! I'll continue to search older posts. Is it fair to assume this sequence:
                    1) engine orange with masks on
                    2) masks removed
                    3). Flat aluminum along edges of intake.
                    Were valve covers installed before aluminum touch-up, or was there a mask of some sort over valve cover area of the heads?

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                    • Richard M.
                      Super Moderator
                      • August 31, 1988
                      • 11299

                      #11
                      Re: Exact engine painting method, 1967 L79

                      More links....

                      John Hinckley only in the search...





                      and 175 more....but this link (showing all 177) will only be available for a few hours as the Server deletes Search Results after a while.



                      Rich

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                      • David B.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • February 29, 1980
                        • 686

                        #12
                        Re: Exact engine painting method, 1967 L79

                        Mike,
                        Have read all previous responses to your thread and unless I missed somewhere I am surprised no one has mentioned anything about all the grease pencil marks that were made to the bare cast assembly before it was actually painted. If you are looking for accuracy I think they are important since the paint application was brisk and coverage varied. The grease pencil markings more often then not showed through the paint in some areas because of the light paint application. Have the specific procedure and colors for the grease pencil marks as well as the paint application for 56-57 Flint blocks. It is rather lengthy and I am not sure it was the same 10 years later.

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                        • Mike E.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • February 28, 1975
                          • 5132

                          #13
                          Re: Exact engine painting method, 1967 L79

                          Dave,
                          Its always good to hear from you. I've been progressing ever so carefully, trying to make sure I don't obliterate anything original. I looked for the possible HT on the front of the heads, and nothing. I will be using simple green on the block sides soon. The motor was an oil-leaker, so in some areas it protected markings, but in other areas the oil residue is baked on. I'm photographing everything. Slow and steady wins the race?
                          I would love to compare what I've found on this and my bow tie 62's with the 56-57 info you have to see how things progressed over the years.

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                          • Joe R.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • May 31, 2006
                            • 1822

                            #14
                            Re: Exact engine painting method, 1967 L79

                            Originally posted by Mike Ernst (211)
                            I'm playing with a 30k mile 67 L79 convertible. It was parked in 1974, and the original motor is seized from sitting. The motor has never been apart, (the intake has been removed and put on a different engine) and still has the intake gasket with GM on the tab, etc. Steel head gaskets, etc. This engine was a major oil leaker. I'm slowly and carefully trying to remove all the crust without losing any original markings.
                            What exactly was the sequence of painting, and what was masked, what had boots on it, etc? I'm finding areas of very little orange paint, and areas of orange paint drips. No paint on areas of the timing chain cover behind the water pump, etc.Also finding evidence of silver mist overspray on the heads.
                            help me understand sequence, method, etc. I realize the way it was intended vs. how the line workers actually did it was not one and the same, and this was prior to robotic painting.
                            Thanks for whatever help you can share!
                            Mike,

                            Maybe you have it all figured out by now, but I stumbled across an article by John Hinckley today. Here it is:



                            Scroll to the bottom for the paint info.

                            Joe

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                            • Mike G.
                              Expired
                              • January 1, 2016
                              • 23

                              #15
                              Re: Exact engine painting method, 1967 L79

                              Thanks Joe.

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