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  • Neal K.
    Very Frequent User
    • October 31, 2007
    • 303

    67 carpet supplier

    Has anyone purchased 80/20 molded carpet from a Stock Interiors for their 67 or other mid year. If so were you satisfied? Thanks
    Neal
  • Michael G.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 1, 1997
    • 1251

    #2
    Re: 67 carpet supplier

    Checked out their website, appears to have the potential to be some good stuff. How does their pricing compare with Auto Custom Carpet?

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    • Neal K.
      Very Frequent User
      • October 31, 2007
      • 303

      #3
      Re: 67 carpet supplier

      Originally posted by Michael Gill (28614)
      Checked out their website, appears to have the potential to be some good stuff. How does their pricing compare with Auto Custom Carpet?
      Michael,
      Thank you for your reply. Pricing seems to be competitive with other vendors. I was hoping for someone to provide input on the quality and originality of the Stock Interior carpet. In the past I purchased dark saddle carpet for my 67 from Al Knoch.
      Neal

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      • Reba W.
        Very Frequent User
        • June 30, 1985
        • 937

        #4
        Re: 67 carpet supplier

        Customer reviews at http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Stock_Interiors

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        • Neal K.
          Very Frequent User
          • October 31, 2007
          • 303

          #5
          Re: 67 carpet supplier

          Reba,
          Thanks for directing me to the customer reviews. The reviews are mixed with cost of shipping be a factor. Some of the older reviews are negative with respect to the quality. I have find that most of the usual interior vendors get mixed reviews as well.
          I don't know what conclusions to draw from reading them.
          Hopefully someone on the Discussion Board has used their carpet and will share their experience.
          Neal

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          • Gary B.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • February 1, 1997
            • 7018

            #6
            Re: 67 carpet supplier

            Originally posted by Neal Kalis (48092)
            Has anyone purchased 80/20 molded carpet from a Stock Interiors for their 67 or other mid year. If so were you satisfied? Thanks
            Neal
            Neal,

            Is there any reason to think that the carpet from Stock Interiors will judge better than carpet from ACC or Al Knoch? It's my understanding that neither ACC nor AK has a 100% correct weave for C2 cars and that repro carpets from those two vendors will get a minor deduct from experienced judges.

            Gary

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            • Neal K.
              Very Frequent User
              • October 31, 2007
              • 303

              #7
              Re: 67 carpet supplier

              Originally posted by Gary Beaupre (28818)
              Neal,

              Is there any reason to think that the carpet from Stock Interiors will judge better than carpet from ACC or Al Knoch? It's my understanding that neither ACC nor AK has a 100% correct weave for C2 cars and that repro carpets from those two vendors will get a minor deduct from experienced judges.

              Gary
              Hi Gary,
              No concrete reason to believe the Stock Interior carpet is 100% correct or that it will judge better than either Al Knoch or ACC. I had ordered a carpet sample from Stock Interior and the color of the small sample seemed close to the 67 dark saddle color but the sample is too small to determine the quality or if the color will look correct when the carpet is installed in the car. I have owned the car since 1969. The original carpet wore out long ago. I replaced it with an Al Knoch carpet years ago. The jute backing that came with the Al Knoch carpet is a bluish gray color while I remember the original as being a tan color. Do you know of a source for the correct jute backing?
              Thanks Neal

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              • Gary B.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • February 1, 1997
                • 7018

                #8
                Re: 67 carpet supplier

                Neal,

                The original jute in my '66 is definitely tan colored. I've never researched repro jute, so i don't know who or if anyone makes correct jute.

                Gary

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                • Neal K.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • October 31, 2007
                  • 303

                  #9
                  Re: 67 carpet supplier

                  I called Stock Interiors wendsday to request information and a sample. They advised that they obtain their molded carpet from ACC.
                  I guess I should have called them first before posting the question My apologies for not doing so.
                  neal

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                  • Richard M.
                    Super Moderator
                    • August 31, 1988
                    • 11323

                    #10
                    Re: 67 carpet supplier

                    Neal, All still good information. I don't think a apology is necessary as research, whether positive or negative results, can always teach us new things.

                    Coincidentally, I recently looked at a very original interior of a 1967 convertible. Carpet was quite original. Here are many photos of some of it's features.

                    Front
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                    I counted the depressions(grooves) in the heel pad. I'll save you the trouble of counting.......There are 33 inside depressions between the outer stitched end grooves. 35 including the outer stitched depressions. This equates to 34 raised ribs if looking using that as a reference.
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                    Kick panel features and screws. Notice the forward screws with oval head Phillips screws and conical washers. This car was built in mid January 1967.
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                    Outer corner behind seats. Note the oval Phillips head screws is directly installed into the inner trim panel, along with the way the binding cutoff is seen in it's unfinished state.
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                    Rear of console carpet cutout and attaching bolts. (Sun blurred this shot)
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                    Jack storage cover. Notice the white bobbin stitching and the seam feature. I would think that carpet suppliers could easily use white thread in their bobbins. Colored bobbin thread stitching is always a telltale of reproduction carpets.
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                    When I see Al and Elliot Knoch at the Regional in January, after Al has a few Rum 'N Cokes I'll try to get him to change his bobbin thread to white for us. Last year he spent a fortune to get his 1959 Turquoise vinyl and dashpads the right shade.

                    Storage well details.
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                    Decklid hinge towers and rear panel and floor details. Notice how the outer flaps are just laying there against the hinge towers and not glued to the rear horizontal panel corners.
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                    It was refreshing to be able to view this originality. Makes for a great learning baseline.

                    Rich

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                    • Neal K.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • October 31, 2007
                      • 303

                      #11
                      Re: 67 carpet supplier

                      Richard,
                      Thank you for the comprehensive photos and detailed narrative. Very helpful. Do you know of a supplier that has the correct tan color jute? I have only been able to locate a grey/blue color jute. My original 67 jute carpet padding was a tan color.
                      Since we are talking interiors, for anyone looking for correct 67 dark saddle leather seat covers, I recommend they check with Al Knoch. I worked with Al for over a year to locate a leather tannery that would duplicate the original dark saddle seat covers. We used an original seat cover that Al had and mine as templates. We verified color accuracy by checking unexposed areas( under the hockey sticks and seat back). The resulting tanned leather and reproduction seat covers are as close as I have seen to our original seat covers which had a mottled/blotchy appearance to the color. No other supplier has them. The other suppliers covers have a uniform brownish color which they call dark saddle. In my opinion that color is not correct. Some may disagree with me. Al liked the result of our effort enough to have additional hides tanned with the 67 mottled dark saddle color.
                      Neal

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                      • Neal K.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • October 31, 2007
                        • 303

                        #12
                        Re: 67 carpet supplier

                        Originally posted by Neal Kalis (48092)
                        Richard,
                        Thank you for the comprehensive photos and detailed narrative. Very helpful. Do you know of a supplier that has the correct tan color jute? I have only been able to locate a grey/blue color jute. My original 67 jute carpet padding was a tan color.
                        Since we are talking interiors, for anyone looking for correct 67 dark saddle leather seat covers, I recommend they check with Al Knoch. I worked with Al for over a year to locate a leather tannery that would duplicate the original dark saddle seat covers. We used an original seat cover that Al had and mine as templates. We verified color accuracy by checking unexposed areas( under the hockey sticks and seat back). The resulting tanned leather and reproduction seat covers are as close as I have seen to our original seat covers which had a mottled/blotchy appearance to the color. No other supplier has them. The other suppliers covers have a uniform brownish color which they call dark saddle. In my opinion that color is not correct. Some may disagree with me. Al liked the result of our effort enough to have additional hides tanned with the 67 mottled dark saddle color.
                        Neal
                        P.S.
                        I have owned my 67 since September 1969. To my knowledge the seat covers were original until I replaced them in 1978 with a set I purchased from Al Knoch which looked spot on at the time. Al recently told me that 67 seat covers he was selling at that time were covers not made by him but which he had purchased in bulk years earlier as overstock. The other seat cover that we also used as a template was one the Dale Robertson located in Al's shop which had a 1967 dark saddle hand written tag on it. It was used but in good condition. Dale had sent it to me to compare with the ones I had. I also compared those covers to a few seat cover photos that had been sent to me by NCRS members who had cars with original dark saddle leather seat covers. Dale passed away before we were able to complete the project. Al and Melanie Furtado, who works for Al Knoch, picked up the ball.
                        Neal

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                        • Richard M.
                          Super Moderator
                          • August 31, 1988
                          • 11323

                          #13
                          Re: 67 carpet supplier

                          Neal,

                          Yes the carpets were great. Thanks to a fellow member request to look at that car, I had the opportunity to get very close to them.

                          I've not seen the tan jute in reproduction. However, once installed it's not seen. I consider the problem jute is the underdash insulation as most I see is the blue type also. I've had to splice in old tan jute behind the reproduction firewall insulation some time ago as that was blue too. Now it's tan.

                          Can't help with the Tan leather either.

                          Rich

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