1967 Glove Box

[Donald O.]

As I begin the restoration of my original clove box, the new tire pressure decal looks wonky, lots of inaccuracies. But the original is in pretty sad shape. See attached photo showing both side by side. Sorry they're big, but better to show details.

When I refinish the globe box door (front and inside), will SEM Trim black be the more correct gloss pr lack of? I used it on my gauge cluster and it came out kind of nice, to me any ways.

Should I also use the SEM Trim black for the paper box frame? The Lower support? The spring/hinge?

Don

[Ed S.]

Re: 1967 Glove Box

Donald,
I can't provide a recommendation on the decal because I have a '64 Corvette and did not have to deal with that as '64s do not come with a tire pressure decal (although I will say the repro version does not appear to me to look very authentic) but, I can comment on painting of glove box components as I recently "restored" mine.

On the recommendation of many other members that restored interior components I used SEM Trim black on all the glove box hardware. I removed the door, frame, and hinge components in order to give them a proper respray. I would say it turned out great. SEM black dries very smooth and uniform - you will be pleased with the results.

Regarding spraying the paper glove box liner, I don't know what condition yours is in but mine was so brittle from dry rot it was falling apart. I purchased a new replacement from Paragon - it was a good fit and appeared to resemble the original in shape, fabric texture and configuration. I also replaced the two small black rubber grommets and black rubber door stops that fit into holes on the door frame. And of course, while the complete glove box assembly is out I talked myself into some routine "mission creep" and attended to a few other details behind the box as well as a good cleaning of dust.

I hope someone else with experience can advise you on what to do about the decal. I am sure there is an acceptable solution that meets or exceeds judging standards.

[Joe R.]

Re: 1967 Glove Box

Don O,

Yes, some guys like the SEM black but I have stuck with the Krylon 1613 thru the years. You have to order on line the 1613 Industrial Grade of Krylon to get the correct color. The Krylon on the shelf at Walley World is not the right color. It has to be the Industrial Line of Krylon.

I believe that the SEM black was first recommended by Dale Pearman years ago. May he RIP!

Good hearing from you again,

JR

[Gene M.]

Re: 1967 Glove Box

Don,
Stay with the original tire pressure label. There is not one line of information on the repo that is correct nor is the paper right. Under CDCIF it fails. Text configuration is bad. It may pass the "I" if not assembled upside down. lol.

[Gerard F.]

Re: 1967 Glove Box

Don,

SEM Trim Black is the way to go.

The attachment is a draft of the article which appeared in the Spring '07 Restorer.

[Donald O.]

Re: 1967 Glove Box

Donald,
I can't provide a recommendation on the decal because I have a '64 Corvette and did not have to deal with that as '64s do not come with a tire pressure decal (although I will say the repro version does not appear to me to look very authentic) but, I can comment on painting of glove box components as I recently "restored" mine.

On the recommendation of many other members that restored interior components I used SEM Trim black on all the glove box hardware. I removed the door, frame, and hinge components in order to give them a proper respray. I would say it turned out great. SEM black dries very smooth and uniform - you will be pleased with the results.

Regarding spraying the paper glove box liner, I don't know what condition yours is in but mine was so brittle from dry rot it was falling apart. I purchased a new replacement from Paragon - it was a good fit and appeared to resemble the original in shape, fabric texture and configuration. I also replaced the two small black rubber grommets and black rubber door stops that fit into holes on the door frame. And of course, while the complete glove box assembly is out I talked myself into some routine "mission creep" and attended to a few other details behind the box as well as a good cleaning of dust.

I hope someone else with experience can advise you on what to do about the decal. I am sure there is an acceptable solution that meets or exceeds judging standards.

Ed, I have a new flocked liner, I'm not doing anything to that. I'll even be transferring the part label to the back side.

Don O,

Yes, some guys like the SEM black but I have stuck with the Krylon 1613 thru the years. You have to order on line the 1613 Industrial Grade of Krylon to get the correct color. The Krylon on the shelf at Walley World is not the right color. It has to be the Industrial Line of Krylon.

I believe that the SEM black was first recommended by Dale Pearman years ago. May he RIP!

Good hearing from you again,

JR

Yeah Joe, still around, and kicking at times. I prefer the SEM look over the Krylon 1613 though.
May he and the Masked Marauder both RIP.

Don,
Stay with the original tire pressure label. There is not one line of information on the repo that is correct nor is the paper right. Under CDCIF it fails. Text configuration is bad. It may pass the "I" if not assembled upside down. lol.

Gene, yeah the picture makes that painfully obvious. Were the labels that white when new in 1967?

Jerry, Very nice article. I've save it and will be reading it a few times and then ask some questions.

Later I will be posting another WTF with my glove box. Right now its time for Grandpa daycare with my Lil Car Show Buddy.

Don

[Mark D.]

Re: 1967 Glove Box

May he and the Masked Marauder both RIP.

How long has it been since Oil Can passed?

[Donald O.]

Re: 1967 Glove Box

2008 maybe?
A VH member might be able to look at one of KK's lasts posts to see his signature and tell us.
Don

[Bill L.]

Re: 1967 Glove Box

Hi Don:

I used Krylon 51613 --- it is the apparent replacement for the 1613 product. I "think" the only difference is that the 1613 was actually lacquer based and the newer 51613 is an enamel product. Not sure about that but I think the safety and planet fools had something to do with that...

All that aside the 51613 worked really well, is readily available, in-expensive and does not show any difference when compared to the original 1613.

I have however heard nothing but good reports on the SEM product as well .....

The photos below are just OK but.... here is the restored glove box area of my 67 coupe --- I did not paint the inner glove box surface because I wanted to retain the original tire pressure sticker. I used the original screws --- they look just OK in the photos but in real life -- up close -- they are nearly perfect.... that is a new fiber board glove box as well....

Hope this helps a bit.

Regards
Bill

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[Gerard F.]

Re: 1967 Glove Box

Don, Bill,

I had the same problem with preserving the original tire pressure decal after seeing the repro. Here's a pic where I made the decision to discard the repro:

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They tell me that my 750 decal is not correct for my very late 67 (22007), but I know it is original to the car. (see story below)

So, to preserve it, I did the following masking before I painted it:

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Yes, I used the SEM trim black, I tried the Krylon 51613 but in comparison the 51613 is a little more glossy than the SEM trim black. I thought SEM product was right on. But what do you know, this is NCRS picayune stuff.

Now here's the story of my tire pressure decal.

I was in the Navy (Seabees) stationed in Little Creek, VA in 67. We would get about 3 or 4 JO's together and live off-base in a rented house (Virginia Beach) and be partying all the time. Most Navy guys called it a "snake-ranch". In 67 as an Ensign, I bought a 67 Renault 10. My roommate at the time, a JG, bought this 67 Corvette, base 327/300. About a year later, in 68, my roommate was going to get married. His wife to be told him to "Get rid of the vette and get a nice family car".

Hearing this from my roommate Don, I begged him "Don, I have the perfect family car, the Renault 10 is a 4 banger, 4 doors, the front seats go down to the rear so you can go camping with the kids (among other incentives)" He finally agreed and I took ownership of my 1967 Corvette convertible (327/300/3.08rear) in Dec 1968.

In Virginia between Little Creek and Virginia Beach, they had this highway along the shore that went down to these inlets with little bridges on the highway. In the winter, along these inlets and approaches to the bridges they would develop black ice on the roadway which you couldn't see.

I had just got the 67 and in Jan 68, and one night I figured to go out partying at the Fort Story (Army) O'Club, near Virginia Beach. This was probably the best pick-up joint for the Navy guys. There had been some freezing weather that day but I figured WTF.

So I was out to score that night in the 67.

I went down one or two inlets, but then one more deep one, I put on the brakes and then accelerated. With the positraction , the Corvette slid around almost exactly 180 degrees and I was headed back to the base. So I thought, Jerry this is not your night, so I went back to the base.

But the next day, I took the car to a tire shop in Norfolk, VA and got 5 new tires and trashed the originals. The new tires were Michelin X, and so I wrote the recommended tire pressure on the tire pressure decal in the glove box.

So that's why I preserve my original tire pressure label in the glove box.

[Donald O.]

Re: 1967 Glove Box

You took the hinge off before painting, right?

Don

[Gerard F.]

Re: 1967 Glove Box

Don,

No, I left the hinge on the door for painting.

Here's the front masked and painted:

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And the finished product:

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[Donald O.]

Re: 1967 Glove Box

Jerry,
In your article on the door face replacement, the old face (just the lip that is) acts as a retaining ledge and spring. Very clever!
If you had to use an adhesive on the replacement face, what type and where would you put once the door is reassembled? Or should this be done before any un-masking, and then re-masked for final paint?
Don

[Gerard F.]

Re: 1967 Glove Box

Don,

I didn't use any adhesive between the insert and door frame as mine was so tight in sliding it in. If yours is loose use a few dabs of clear silicone adhesive between the insert and the frame after you unmask the insert and have it in place. Same silicone adhesive to hold the emblem in place.


You could do the gluing, before or after the final paint.