Help with this engine pad authenticity

[Gary J.]

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This pad is on ebay currently, I notice a double hit on the seven (probably not an issue) and an upside down 8 in the vin sequence.
Also is it the light in the shot or do the engine build date numbers seem to be raised and not recessed?
Thanks for your thoughts

[Patrick B.]

Re: Help with this engine pad authenticity

This is a good original stamp with nice grain. The extra 7 is just the tool bouncing back onto the pad after the hammer blow.

[Gene M.]

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Gary,
IMO the O in the build and the vin first 1 are not typical of small blocks assembled a day before and day after this pad. The 17,000 build in my collection do not have a "lower" position first 1 in the vin. This was well done.

[Mike E.]

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I don't really like the paint on the car. It looks to me the front fenders are a different shade of rally red perhaps it's just the way it was photographed. I would like to see a few shots of the frame to how good the cars bones are. I realize your asking about the pad, sorry about changing the subject.

Mike

[John D.]

Re: Help with this engine pad authenticity

Gary,
IMO the O in the build and the vin first 1 are not typical of small blocks assembled a day before and day after this pad. The 17,000 build in my collection do not have a "lower" position first 1 in the vin. This was well done.

gene

Dunno...I have a pic of a pad 700 cars from that with the same spacing between the 7 and the 1 and the very same upside down 8.

[Michael H.]

Re: Help with this engine pad authenticity

This is a good original stamp with nice grain. The extra 7 is just the tool bouncing back onto the pad after the hammer blow.

I agree with Pat.

Mike

[Gene M.]

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gene

Dunno...I have a pic of a pad 700 cars from that with the same spacing between the 7 and the 1 and the very same upside down 8.

The space looks fine but is that it is lower. But that's not what got my attention as much as the build O is different in the day before and days after. Yes, it looks good unless you compare to numbers just before and just after the build.

[Loren L.]

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Would someone explain to me "how" you get a double hit on just one of the 7s?

[Stewart L.]

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The car is in Mass, an area known for rusty cars. In looking at the photos and blowing up the the engine compartment photo, look at the rust on the upper control arm and other parts in the engine area and compare it to the fresh engine pad, to me that raises a flag. Even if the block has been cleaned during a rebuild, it should show some patina IMO.
And has been pointed out previously, the doors and front end are a different color but that's as easy fix if everything else is good.
I also would wonder if the control arm looks like that, what does the frame and other suspension look like? I say whether the stamp is original or not, there are probably more problems with this car. You can do better.

[Edward J.]

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Gary, Mistakes happen in the process of engine stamps , My take is it appears to look like a untampered with and the broach marks are good, I would get all the casting dates and see how they line up with the assy. date of the engine.I have seen a few ghost stamps on the pads here on the TDB.

[Michael W.]

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Would someone explain to me "how" you get a double hit on just one of the 7s?

Possibly the ghost 7 is an image of the first 7 in the VIN derivative. The tool landed at an angle during the bounce.

[Donald O.]

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Would someone explain to me "how" you get a double hit on just one of the 7s?

Did you get your copy of the Driveline and Restorer yet?
Just wondering out loud.

DonO

[Patrick T.]

Re: Help with this engine pad authenticity

This is a good original stamp with nice grain. The extra 7 is just the tool bouncing back onto the pad after the hammer blow.

Here is my '67 L-79 pad which I had both John Hinckley and Al Grenning look at. They both agreed that it was a real factory stamp and John said the 6 had a rebound hit like yours. You can see it faintly under the 1.

[Jack M.]

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Would someone explain to me "how" you get a double hit on just one of the 7s?

Initially, I had a similar concern... but an enlargement shows an additional/faint number (1) between the 1 and 7.
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[Joseph T.]

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I agree with Pat-No doubt that is an OEM stamp from the General