Can my NCRS production date be wrong?

[Domenic T.]

On my 1967 coupe my GM official production date says 5/3/1967. My door panels have 2 stamped dates on them. One date is May 10 1967, and the other is May 14 1967. What does the production date mean? The dates are clear but faded and look very official.

Dom

[Loren L.]

Re: Can my NCRS production date be wrong?

What are you calling "my GM official production date" and where are you getting it from?

[Domenic T.]

Re: Can my NCRS production date be wrong?

Loren,
It is as posted, I got it from NCRS on a official document with the dealer that the car was sent to.

Dom

[Loren L.]

Re: Can my NCRS production date be wrong?

So your VIN is 20800 +-, ? If so, I can only guess that it has door panels from another car or that something happened on the line to take your car out its normal place in line.

[Domenic T.]

Re: Can my NCRS production date be wrong?

Loren,
I have had the car since it was a few years old so this must have been a line problem as you say or could my NCRS shipping data report be wrong.
My vin is 194377S117702 and the production date 5/3/67 with 5/10/67 & 5/14/67 door panels?

Dom

[Loren L.]

Re: Can my NCRS production date be wrong?

Well, if I use the correct chart, 17702 certainly fits May 3. Another possibility is that the car was delivered with bad panels. I bought a one owner '65 A/C car in Phoenix that had a driver's door panel made 5 months after the car. The widow informed me that the car had come in with a
cut door panel and it took 6 months to get a replacement. Could the guy "running the stamp" have selected "May" instead of "Mar" by mistake. In any case, count your blessings - if that's the biggest problem with your car, you're in tall cotton.

[Robert G.]

Re: Can my NCRS production date be wrong?

What does your trim tag show?

[Roy S.]

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Dom, you can always have NCRS recheck your production date, I seem to remember for some reason doing your car a long time ago while I was still involved in the program. Its entirely possible that the date out of the microfiche converted file was read incorrectly, it seems to fit the sequencing of production at that time, but your car might have had a production hold, have them double check it. Typically a production hold shows up in the shipping data records, because if GM held it for any reason they could not bill the dealer. Otherwise I think you need to accept the fact that your door panels were installed post production for some reason. As Loren said, be thankful if that is your major concern.

[Charles C.]

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So along the lines of what is being discussed, and just out of curiosity, what would the "typical" timeline be for the door panel manufacturing date to the shipping date?

I only ask because my '67 (un-restored) has Fri Feb 10th dates on the door panels and a Mon Feb 13th NCRS shipping date.

So the panels would be built and probably date stamped upon completion, then gathered up in some fashion and somehow shipped or moved to the assembly line area where they would be installed, then the rest of the car would need to be finished, then shipped.

Seems like my three day window is awfully short, even with a fast paced production line.

Charlie

[Mark L.]

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Dom, mistakes can happen. I re-checked and 5/3/67 is the correct date.

[Domenic T.]

Re: Can my NCRS production date be wrong?

Guys,
Thanks, this was not a complaint but curiosity. Regardless of the dates that doesn't change my car a bit. My door panels are dark green but have just a bit of use showing so I want everything to look new and will most likely replace them. I saved this cars life in 1971 when they started parting it out so I am happy to have any B-day for it.

Dom

[Dan D.]

Re: Can my NCRS production date be wrong?

No one has mentioned one other possibility...the trim panels could have been replaced at the dealership. Having spent 40 years working for G.M., I can tell you sometimes things "hiccup" on the line. When that car hit the trim shop...if the conveyor brought two red trim panels...they were smacked on and it was "down the floor and out the door." The car would have been shipped and the dealer would deal with it. That line rate, at that time would have been set at around 12 to 14 cars per hour and that line wasn't going to stop for anything. I can remember, as a Pontiac Rep. going into a dealership and seeing a blue interior in a gold car...seeing a red front seat with the rest of the tan interior...seeing a Catalina that had all the chrome and emblems for a Delta 88 on one side of the car... (I could write a book)...this could have easily been one of those situations. Enjoy your car

[Rich C.]

Re: Can my NCRS production date be wrong?

I have all the service records that came with my '96. The original owner had the drivers interior door panel and seatbelt replaced soon after purchasing it, covered under warranty. So it does happen. Guess I'll lose points for the in-correct seat belt date if I ever have it judged.

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[Mike E.]

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Fwiw, my 67 convertible with an A.O.Smith body with trim tag J03, VIN 18621, has original saddle panels dated April 6 and March 27.

[John H.]

Re: Can my NCRS production date be wrong?

When that car hit the trim shop...if the conveyor brought two red trim panels...they were smacked on and it was "down the floor and out the door." That line rate, at that time would have been set at around 12 to 14 cars per hour and that line wasn't going to stop for anything.

Dan -

There were no delivery conveyors for trim at St. Louis - those panels were stocked in boxes in a rack adjacent to the Final Trim Line, and the operator pulled them by hand - they were among the last parts installed prior to the shipping gate. In the midyear era, the plant ran at seven per hour on two shifts. For that type of material shortage at Corvette, they'd hold the car in the yard until the material arrived. In Dom's case, door trim panel replacement later under warranty is a more likely scenario.