'63 Trivia

[John D.]

All your '63 guru's out there. Here's one for you. Do you know there is an early version of the glove box door that's very rare.
Not referring to anything about the latch or the lock. Do you know what is the difference between the early version and a typical 63 glove box door? JD

[Stuart F.]

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The only thing I am aware of was the metal reinforcement bar added under the assembly. Was there something else? That too was added early on like Nov or Dec 62.

[John D.]

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Hi Stu, Nice seeing you at Carlisle. That's not the answer. Just speaking of the glove box door assembly. Nothing else.
Jorjorian. Please don't reply. I am sure you know the answer. Wait for awhile.

This why '63's are so tough to restore. Those early 63's were all on their own.

[Harry S.]

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The early glove box door had the 64 to 67 lock. Meaning it did not have the large chrome bezel around the lock.

[Frank D.]

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The early glove box door had the 64 to 67 lock. Meaning it did not have the large chrome bezel around the lock.

If that's the correct answer then no, I certainly didn't know it!

[Timothy B.]

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No reinforcement by the hinge, I think that was added later. Looking at that page in the AIM gives me a headache.

[Joe R.]

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No reinforcement by the hinge, I think that was added later. Looking at that page in the AIM gives me a headache.

Frank,

Yes, that is true of some early 63 doors. I have included a couple of pics showing the lock from a passenger car.

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[John D.]

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No one has come up with the answer I am looking for. Not even in the many emails from the 63 horders/gurus.

Now for a question from Dr. Mike. What month was Dr. Blatchley's race car? Was it September '62?

The glove box that I got as a gift from the Grady Davis/Dr. Donald Bllatchley's car is different than any other I have ever seen. Too bad John Bollard doesn't look in here as he thought it was a repro. Said he never saw one like it.
On the inside of the door. The back of the plastic is a very course grain. Very crude grain. Sorta like talking about the fiberglass on a '53 Corvette. The front of the door is gorgeous. If you look close at it you can see the fiberglass on the back side is a different texture also.
That's the answer I wanted. The glove box door doesn't belong on my March 3rd car but is staying there.
Memories from the old days when I was on Doc's pit crew for a short time as didn't know 50 years later it was the in thing to do.
All the jobs I got to do were the crap jobs. LOL.

[Stuart F.]

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I think I saw a mention of what you speak in Noland Adam's "Corvette Restoration & Technical Guide - Vol. 2" for 63 thru 67, but I was looking for something more apparent and obvious on the face of the door, as opposed to the inside of the door. I know mine has a smooth texture inside along with 2 useless cup holders like those on an airliner drop down tray. I know I have learned well and always return my tray to the stowed position before parking my car.

[Joe R.]

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John,

That glove box door is one of the repos that Terry M. sold at TMCS back in the 70's.

Yep, keep it on the Repomobile as it deserves only the finest repos available.

JR

No one has come up with the answer I am looking for. Not even in the many emails from the 63 horders/gurus.

Now for a question from Dr. Mike. What month was Dr. Blatchley's race car? Was it September '62?

The glove box that I got as a gift from the Grady Davis/Dr. Donald Bllatchley's car is different than any other I have ever seen. Too bad John Bollard doesn't look in here as he thought it was a repro. Said he never saw one like it.
On the inside of the door. The back of the plastic is a very course grain. Very crude grain. Sorta like talking about the fiberglass on a '53 Corvette. The front of the door is gorgeous. If you look close at it you can see the fiberglass on the back side is a different texture also.
That's the answer I wanted. The glove box door doesn't belong on my March 3rd car but is staying there.
Memories from the old days when I was on Doc's pit crew for a short time as didn't know 50 years later it was the in thing to do.
All the jobs I got to do were the crap jobs. LOL.

[Mike M.]

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john: in about 1977, doc blatchley had me come to greensburg to empty his carriage house of all the left over parts from his c-1 and both c-2s(one of which was the grady davis ZO6 tanker that rich mason event
ually bought and restored. anyway, my pickup bed was full to its tops and included in all the old original vet parts was a plastic 63 glove box door in beautiful condition. i assumed it was off the davis/blatchley ZO6 as that is the only one blatchley owned. sorry to say i no longer have it to examine(its on my old late ZO6 tanker that i sold a couple years ago). anyway, i don't recall the backside being rough fiberglass texture.
included in my haul from blatchley that evening was all the window glass out of the 66 white 425hp roadster he bought from grady. the 66 replaced the ZO6. the window sticker is still glued to the pass side door glass. car delivered to yenko. the car is currently being restored elsewhere. mike

[John D.]

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john: in about 1977, doc blatchley had me come to greensburg to empty his carriage house of all the left over parts from his c-1 and both c-2s(one of which was the grady davis ZO6 tanker that rich mason event
ually bought and restored. anyway, my pickup bed was full to its tops and included in all the old original vet parts was a plastic 63 glove box door in beautiful condition. i assumed it was off the davis/blatchley ZO6 as that is the only one Blatchley owned. sorry to say i no longer have it to examine(its on my old late ZO6 tanker that i sold a couple years ago). anyway, i don't recall the backside being rough fiberglass texture.
included in my haul from blatchley that evening was all the window glass out of the 66 white 425hp roadster he bought from grady. the 66 replaced the ZO6. the window sticker is still glued to the pass side door glass. car delivered to yenko. the car is currently being restored elsewhere. mike

Doc, Here's what I can recall quite clearly about the glove box door. Doc's mechanic was Tim Grabiak of Grabiak Chev. While Tim was alive he gave me a huge amount of suspension parts from the Gulf Car. And a lot of wrecked parts from the car. Tim was a junk collector like most of us. After Tim was killed in a '63 in '72 or '74. I see his wife once in a while as she always has a new Corvette. I will ask her the date.
Meanwhile Tim's brother is still alive and he is the one that gave me the glove box door. Here is what he said to me one day after he heard I bought two of '63's. He said Tim would have liked me having more "these" parts from Doc's race car.
Gave me a wobble pump and the glove box door. Now I also received a NOS tach but that may not have been from the race car. Have no clue.
What month was the race car Dr. Mike? I know it was supposed to have an early FI unit as I had that FI unit on y 19,000 plus car. So that unit would have had a wobble pump. The race car had numerous FI units on it.
Meanwhile the Dashboard was wrapped in Pittsburgh Press newspaper and looked brand new. Tim had two brothers. One is gone but Mark is still alive. I will make it a point of asking him. Meanwhile seldom was there one of anything with that car. Maybe Grady gave Doc more than one glove box door? I don't know how many 63's Grady had.
Got your nice box. John

[John D.]

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IMG_1431 (2).jpgMy early 63 glove box door from the Doc Blatchley's old race car. Notice the two black rods. Painted in their entirety. I didn't know the door had semi-gloss paint on it though. The lock on the door is not an early one. Came from the original March glove box so the keys would match in old days.

By the way. The inside of my glove box door is bare fiberglass. No signs of paint at all.