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  • Mark E.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 1, 1993
    • 4536

    1970 Light Saddle "marbled" coloring- How to duplicate?

    I have a reproduction 1970 Light Saddle front console (I think from Corvette America) with different coloring than my original dash and console. It's a long story, but I'm stuck with it.

    The original console and dash are light saddle in color on the higher surfaces of the vinyl's texture, and darker brown in the lower recesses of the texture.

    The reproduction console is also light saddle in color on the higher surfaces of the texture (within a shade or so of the original), but a lighter tan in the lower recesses of the texture. (See photo; I don't know why it's sideways but it shows the original dash and reproduction console next to each other).

    Can anyone recommend a source for a reproduction 1970 Light Saddle console with light/dark "marbling" like the original?

    Alternatively, in an attempt to better match the original coloring, does anyone have a technique for dying the lower recesses of my reproduction console darker brown, while leaving the higher surfaces its current color?


    Thanks again folks! Isn't this hobby fun?
    Last edited by John W.; September 21, 2015, 02:27 PM. Reason: Deleted corrupt graphic
    Mark Edmondson
    Dallas, Texas
    Texas Chapter

    1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
    1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top
  • Mark E.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 1, 1993
    • 4536

    #2
    Re: 1970 Light Saddle "marbled" coloring- How to duplicate?

    The "Insert Image" didn't work in the first post, so I'm using "Attachments" to add the photo.

    Hope this works.
    Attached Files
    Mark Edmondson
    Dallas, Texas
    Texas Chapter

    1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
    1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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    • Russ S.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • April 30, 1982
      • 2162

      #3
      Re: 1970 Light Saddle "marbled" coloring- How to duplicate?

      Is the original really suppose to look like that? I don't recall seeing them like that.

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      • Kenneth B.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • August 31, 1984
        • 2087

        #4
        Re: 1970 Light Saddle "marbled" coloring- How to duplicate?

        My FEB. built 1970 light saddle original interior is ALL the same light color & dos NOT have the dark recesses. I have never saw one that did.
        65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
        What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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        • Michael W.
          Expired
          • April 1, 1997
          • 4290

          #5
          Re: 1970 Light Saddle "marbled" coloring- How to duplicate?

          The marbling is the result of many years of dust, dirt etc. Not original.

          Your picture is sideways as that's how you were holding your phone at the time.

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          • Mark E.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • April 1, 1993
            • 4536

            #6
            Re: 1970 Light Saddle "marbled" coloring- How to duplicate?

            I don't know guys; I think the car is telling a different story.

            The sections of vinyl on the underside of the original console that were mostly shielded from sun, wear and dirt (third photo below) appear similar to the exposed dash surfaces (first two photos). This coloring looks much different than the repro console coloring shown in my prior post.

            Is my '70 Light Saddle interior really the only one like this?

            photo 1 (3).jpgphoto 2 (2).jpgphoto 4 (2).jpg
            Attached Files
            Mark Edmondson
            Dallas, Texas
            Texas Chapter

            1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
            1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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            • Leif A.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • August 31, 1997
              • 3627

              #7
              Re: 1970 Light Saddle "marbled" coloring- How to duplicate?

              Mark,
              I owned a '72 Warbonnet Yellow/Saddle car and that interior looked nothing like your pictures. The coloring was consistent across the entire surface...seats, dash, console, door panels, etc. The coloring was darker than what your pics show, as well.
              Leif
              '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
              Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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              • Bill C.
                Expired
                • July 15, 2007
                • 904

                #8
                Re: 1970 Light Saddle "marbled" coloring- How to duplicate?

                looks to me like it was redyed at some point and it is wearing out.

                corvette America will dye certain parts before selling them
                they do this with the door pulls and I be willing to bet on lots of other parts too.
                chesper than making twenty colored parts instead of five or six

                i have never seen anything like that on light saddle interior before

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                • Mark E.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • April 1, 1993
                  • 4536

                  #9
                  Re: 1970 Light Saddle "marbled" coloring- How to duplicate?

                  Originally posted by Leif Anderson (29632)
                  Mark,
                  I owned a '72 Warbonnet Yellow/Saddle car and that interior looked nothing like your pictures. The coloring was consistent across the entire surface...seats, dash, console, door panels, etc. The coloring was darker than what your pics show, as well.
                  Leif,

                  1970 Light Saddle, code 418/424 is unique to that year and is significantly lighter than code 417/421 Saddle from 1972.
                  Mark Edmondson
                  Dallas, Texas
                  Texas Chapter

                  1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                  1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                  • Mark E.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • April 1, 1993
                    • 4536

                    #10
                    Re: 1970 Light Saddle "marbled" coloring- How to duplicate?

                    Originally posted by Bill Chamberlain (47576)
                    looks to me like it was redyed at some point and it is wearing out.
                    I really don't think so, Bill. This marbled pattern is too uniform, even on tucked-away surfaces as shown in my last photos. It doesn't look worn; it looks like it was made that way.

                    Any suggestions who I may talk to about this?
                    Mark Edmondson
                    Dallas, Texas
                    Texas Chapter

                    1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                    1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                    • Russ S.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • April 30, 1982
                      • 2162

                      #11
                      Re: 1970 Light Saddle "marbled" coloring- How to duplicate?

                      What it looks like to me is that someone has washed the top finish off with a solvent like lacquer thinner.
                      Originally posted by Mark Edmondson (22468)
                      I don't know guys; I think the car is telling a different story.

                      The sections of vinyl on the underside of the original console that were mostly shielded from sun, wear and dirt (third photo below) appear similar to the exposed dash surfaces (first two photos). This coloring looks much different than the repro console coloring shown in my prior post.

                      Is my '70 Light Saddle interior really the only one like this?

                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]63906[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]63907[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]63904[/ATTACH]

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                      • Russ S.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • April 30, 1982
                        • 2162

                        #12
                        Re: 1970 Light Saddle "marbled" coloring- How to duplicate?

                        Try talking to Al Knock.
                        Originally posted by Mark Edmondson (22468)
                        I really don't think so, Bill. This marbled pattern is too uniform, even on tucked-away surfaces as shown in my last photos. It doesn't look worn; it looks like it was made that way.

                        Any suggestions who I may talk to about this?

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                        • Mark E.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • April 1, 1993
                          • 4536

                          #13
                          Re: 1970 Light Saddle "marbled" coloring- How to duplicate?

                          Originally posted by Russ Steinhaus (5540)
                          What it looks like to me is that someone has washed the top finish off with a solvent like lacquer thinner.
                          Russ, if you look at the third photo above, it shows a section of "virgin" vinyl that was protected under the console. The two-tone marbling pattern is similar to the rest of the interior's vinyl. I doubt solvent was applied in this obscure area.
                          Mark Edmondson
                          Dallas, Texas
                          Texas Chapter

                          1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                          1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                          • Alan S.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • July 31, 1989
                            • 3415

                            #14
                            Re: 1970 Light Saddle "marbled" coloring- How to duplicate?

                            Hi Russ,
                            Is it possible that somehow over the years the coloring agent in vinyl 'migrated' and is condensed in the darker areas?
                            Is there any correlation between the 'texture' of the vinyl and the dark areas? Is it in the 'low' areas of the texture?
                            Regards,
                            Alan
                            71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
                            Mason Dixon Chapter
                            Chapter Top Flight October 2011

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                            • Mike E.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • February 28, 1975
                              • 5138

                              #15
                              Re: 1970 Light Saddle "marbled" coloring- How to duplicate?

                              The green/light saddle 70 convertible I owned was an original interior car, and there was no similar marbling in that vinyl, I'm sure.

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