1963 rear spring

[Jerry C.]

I remember a post on rear spring paint being a product from Home Depot like zink or cad paint but could not find the post, anyone remember? Also is Quanta's rear spring liners better than most? Thanks in advance.

[Edward J.]

Re: 1963 rear spring

Jerry go by the JM for 63/64 . A lot of the guys here will say there was some blackout on the original spring which is likely correct. but for judging reasons light gray primer works.

[Joe R.]

Re: 1963 rear spring

The paint refered to was Lonoclad (sp?) which is gray and used for lubricant and protective coating on metal to metal surfaces. Purchase your liners from Bair's and use your old ones to cut to length. I have never seen a 63 spring that had any trace of anything but dark gray slag formed in the annealing process. But I have not seen everything (yet)!

JR

[Joe L.]

Re: 1963 rear spring

The paint refered to was Lonoclad (sp?) which is gray and used for lubricant and protective coating on metal to metal surfaces. Purchase your liners from Bair's and use your old ones to cut to length. I have never seen a 63 spring that had any trace of anything but dark gray slag formed in the annealing process. But I have not seen everything (yet)!

JR

JR------


The product was Ionoclad but it's no longer available.

Primarily, the Ionoclad was to be applied on the surfaces between the leaves. However, sometimes it "slopped over" onto the edges. On my 1969, no Ionoclad was ever visible on the edges (i.e. the part of the spring you can see with it installed in the car) nor was any visible on the bottom of the lower leaf. However, when I first disassembled the spring, it was VERY prominent on the lower surfaces of the other leaves.

A "zinc rich" primer is probably the best substitute currently available.

[Joe R.]

Re: 1963 rear spring

Joe,

Thanks for that info. Seems as if it has become popular to paint the spring and deduct when the Lonoclad (gray paint) is not present.
You attending Carlisle this year? A shame that Tim passed and he won't be there stuffing us with Lobster! I would start walking today if I could see Tim and enjoy his hospitality just one more time!

JR

[Joe L.]

Re: 1963 rear spring

Joe,

Thanks for that info. Seems as if it has become popular to paint the spring and deduct when the Lonoclad (gray paint) is not present.
You attending Carlisle this year? A shame that Tim passed and he won't be there stuffing us with Lobster! I would start walking today if I could see Tim and enjoy his hospitality just one more time!

JR

JR------


I think it's unfair that folks get penalized if the spring is not fully "painted". The majority of original springs did not have any Ionoclad on the edges of the leaves. As I mentioned, mine did not. I also have several used springs that were never previously disassembled. None have any trace of Ionoclad on the edges. Very few of the original springs I've seen have had any trace of Ionoclad on the edges. This is consistent with the GM prints for the spring which instruct to apply the Ionoclad to the tension (lower) surface of the leaves. I believe the Ionoclad was applied with a brush as it's too thick for spraying. So, the brushwork was sloppy and sometimes the edges got some Ionoclad. To extrapolate that to the extent that deductions are taken for springs not completely coated with Ionoclad seems inappropriate to me.

By the way, the Ionoclad was not a true paint. It was a coating.

I won't be at Carlisle this year.

[John D.]

Re: 1963 rear spring

Franz Estericher, a former member contributor here, told us long ago that the '63 springs were not painted. Only "Paint" would have been from the black out.

As stated above. If you see a '63 spring fully painted it's not typical.
Michael Hanson showed us many pics of the years of '63 rear ends, etc and those springs had traces of the black out. JD

[Joe R.]

Re: 1963 rear spring

Franz Estericher, a former member contributor here, told us long ago that the '63 springs were not painted. Only "Paint" would have been from the black out.

As stated above. If you see a '63 spring fully painted it's not typical.
Michael Hanson showed us many pics of the years of '63 rear ends, etc and those springs had traces of the black out. JD

JD,

Great for that to be supported by someone that was at the St. Louis assembly plant. Er, make that two at the assembly plant. That's at least four of us that have never seen a trace of lonoclad on a 63 spring!

JR

[Gerald C.]

Re: 1963 rear spring

I am restoring a rear spring for my 63. The springs have the curls at the ends and has the correct arc according to this forum. As I was taking the spring apart to paint it and replace the liners, I found that I have 10 leafs instead of the normal 9! Does anyone has the lengths of each of the correct leafs?

Thanks,

Jerry

[Tracy C.]

Re: 1963 rear spring

Franz Estericher, a former member contributor here, told us long ago that the '63 springs were not painted. Only "Paint" would have been from the black out.

As stated above. If you see a '63 spring fully painted it's not typical.
Michael Hanson showed us many pics of the years of '63 rear ends, etc and those springs had traces of the black out. JD

Here is a pic right out of Noland's book. One of several 63s photgraphed at the factory with plenty of blackout and no they are not Pilot line cars. I am dumbfounded as to why we as an organization continue to debate this issue.

tc

[Rick A.]

Re: 1963 rear spring

come on Tracy you know why.................