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  • Richard S.
    Very Frequent User
    • July 31, 2006
    • 187

    Use of ether c1 FI

    After being unable to start my 60' FI for the past three days I resorted to the use of Ether. After three failed attempts of introducing Ether into the air intake it did start on the fourth try. Each blast lasted 3 seconds and produced only modest response until the fourth attempt. Assuming that this may reoccur, would I be better off injecting the Ether directly into the dog house via the wiper vacuum line hole and if so, for how long.
  • Willard M.
    Very Frequent User
    • August 31, 1979
    • 422

    #2
    Re: Use of ether c1 FI

    I'm sure that you will get lots of comments saying don't do this. In most of my fuel cars I made a small, half inch, slit in the large black hose from the air cleaner. I would then insert the thin nozzle here and give it a short blast of 1 second. I finally stopped using starter fluid and used WD-40 and this seemed to work just as well.

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    • John D.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • December 1, 1979
      • 5507

      #3
      Re: Use of ether c1 FI

      Richard, I don't like Starting fluid. Get a nice clean or new oil can. Put some fresh gas in it and use it instead.
      Meanwhile sounds like you may have Cranking signal valve issues. John

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      • Jim L.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • September 30, 1979
        • 1808

        #4
        Re: Use of ether c1 FI

        I agree completely with John.... don't use starting fluid. I have never, ever had to resort to such band-aid measures to start my fuelies and you shouldn't either. Find out what the real problem is and fix it. A defective Cranking Signal Valve would be a likely culprit.

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        • Stuart F.
          Expired
          • August 31, 1996
          • 4676

          #5
          Re: Use of ether c1 FI

          Starting spray will work on a carbureted engine, but the same problem on those engines may occur with a Fuelie: Our older Corvette engines, specially those with 10.5 or 11.25 to 1 compression, will knock like crazy. You'd swear the engine was coming apart. Please don't use it.

          On J.D's idea about using a clean/new oil can filled with gas; my experience has been that I could never get the pump (assuming you use a can with a pump) to work well. The viscosity of the gas doesn't seem to pump very well like the heavier oil. I have such a can now and I tried one about 30 years ago with the same result (never learn). The gas in my oil can is still there, but I have to pour it into my carb (which doesn't help you Fuelie owners). I also used a squeeze bottle in the past that had a brass nozzle, but you don't want to store gas in a plastic bottle too long.

          Stu Fox

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          • John D.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • December 1, 1979
            • 5507

            #6
            Re: Use of ether c1 FI

            Originally posted by Stuart Fox (28060)
            Starting spray will work on a carbureted engine, but the same problem on those engines may occur with a Fuelie: Our older Corvette engines, specially those with 10.5 or 11.25 to 1 compression, will knock like crazy. You'd swear the engine was coming apart. Please don't use it.

            On J.D's idea about using a clean/new oil can filled with gas; my experience has been that I could never get the pump (assuming you use a can with a pump) to work well. The viscosity of the gas doesn't seem to pump very well like the heavier oil. I have such a can now and I tried one about 30 years ago with the same result (never learn). The gas in my oil can is still there, but I have to pour it into my carb (which doesn't help you Fuelie owners). I also used a squeeze bottle in the past that had a brass nozzle, but you don't want to store gas in a plastic bottle too long.

            Stu Fox
            Stu, I have no problem with my New oil can. Doubt it would work with my Model T oil can though. hahaha

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            • Stuart F.
              Expired
              • August 31, 1996
              • 4676

              #7
              Re: Use of ether c1 FI

              John;

              Please tell us where you got your oil can. My last one was from Advance Auto Parts. Bought one for oil and another for gas. The oil can works great, but I can't quite pump the one with gas in it fast enough to get it through the little braided hose.

              Wish I had one like they used on the old steam locomotives. Now was an oil can.

              Stu Fox

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              • John D.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • December 1, 1979
                • 5507

                #8
                Re: Use of ether c1 FI

                Originally posted by Stuart Fox (28060)
                John;

                Please tell us where you got your oil can. My last one was from Advance Auto Parts. Bought one for oil and another for gas. The oil can works great, but I can't quite pump the one with gas in it fast enough to get it through the little braided hose.

                Wish I had one like they used on the old steam locomotives. Now was an oil can.

                Stu Fox
                Harbor Freight

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                • Stuart F.
                  Expired
                  • August 31, 1996
                  • 4676

                  #9
                  Re: Use of ether c1 FI

                  Thanks John.

                  Stay cool this summer. Hope we can get up to Carlisle in August. I'll be just getting back in country after a month and a half away from my baby (my 63).

                  Advised the Gentlman that bought that 62 Fuelie from my son to contact you for follow up work on it. He still has problems keeping it running and our local NCRS expert can't seem to get it right either. Told him to have the whole unit looked at because most of the previous work was pre-ethanol.

                  Stu Fox

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