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  • John R.
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    • November 1, 2005
    • 433

    64-65 Air Conditioning Compressor muffler, correct?

    Want to know if the muffler in the photo is correct for a '64? Any comments would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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  • Joseph T.
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    • March 1, 1986
    • 169

    #2
    Re: 64-65 Air Conditioning Compressor muffler, correct?

    IMG_0272.jpg
    This muffler is from a 1965 Corvette - I believe they are the same.

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    • John R.
      Very Frequent User
      • November 1, 2005
      • 433

      #3
      Re: 64-65 Air Conditioning Compressor muffler, correct?

      Joseph, does yours have the Z-W stamped into the muffler (cannister)?? Wondering if that is a manufacturer?

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      • Susan D.
        Infrequent User
        • January 1, 1988
        • 24

        #4
        Re: 64-65 Air Conditioning Compressor muffler, correct?

        Early 64s would have 63 style muffler. The change over seems to have been round mid production. That looks like a good 64-65 muffler, Z-W included.
        Last edited by Susan D.; April 6, 2015, 07:48 PM.

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        • Harry S.
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          • July 31, 2002
          • 5295

          #5
          Re: 64-65 Air Conditioning Compressor muffler, correct?

          63 Muffler


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          • John R.
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            • November 1, 2005
            • 433

            #6
            Re: 64-65 Air Conditioning Compressor muffler, correct?

            Jerry, well that is an interesting comment, early to mid '64's used a '63 style muffler. The judging manual(6th edition) does NOT mention this. So if this is correct, what other A/C components applicable to an early to mid '64 would be of the '63 type? STV, brackets, case with spot welded ID tag, dehydrator, etc, etc...???

            Harry, the judging manual states the schraeder valves on a '63 muffler are located on the inboard and outboard side of the muffler. Your photo has them on top. Is the judging manual incorrect on this point? It does say the '63 muffler is cadium plated steel as your photo shows. It says '64 mufflers are aluminum, again, no mention of the '63 type used on a '64 car.

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            • Harry S.
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              • July 31, 2002
              • 5295

              #7
              Re: 64-65 Air Conditioning Compressor muffler, correct?

              On a 63 both Schrader valves are on the top. The compressor and compressor bracket are unique to 63. The compressor was also used on Buick, Pontiac, Chevrolet and Cadillac when ordered with A/C. The STV was 63 to 66 then the POA was used starting in 67. The aluminum tube in the water line to the heater box had a unique 63 only bend ( no one makes it ). The hot water shutoff is the same for C2's. The expansion valve is the same.
              The drier is unique to 63, the top says IN and OUT instead of EVAP and COND. Think I got it all.

              Oh, no one makes the compressor bracket. So few were made (278 cars) they are impossible to find.

              My compressor and bracket.
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              • John R.
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                • November 1, 2005
                • 433

                #8
                Re: 64-65 Air Conditioning Compressor muffler, correct?

                Harry, thanks for the info. Not sure what to do here. The Judging Manual does not mention the '63 type muffler is used on a '64 or that any other unique '63 parts should be used on early to mid '64's.

                Should I go by what the manual says, or is this a common error in the manual that all the judges know about? Can anyone comment? Thanks.

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                • Harry S.
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                  • July 31, 2002
                  • 5295

                  #9
                  Re: 64-65 Air Conditioning Compressor muffler, correct?

                  At the Kansas City Regional there was one 64 coupe with A/C. Best I could tell it looked just like my 63 muffler. I can't remember the VIN, I'll look for pictures.


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                  • Susan D.
                    Infrequent User
                    • January 1, 1988
                    • 24

                    #10
                    Re: 64-65 Air Conditioning Compressor muffler, correct?

                    It is not unusual to find conflicting information in a judging manual. As they say it is a guide. The 64 air cars have only recently come under scrutiny. I am giving any information I find to 63-64 team leader and judging team. As to the muffler, a 63 style muffler is on a early 64 in Noland Adams book. That is what started me looking into the mufflers. Since that time I have talked to several owners who have early 64s that have 63 mufflers. There also seems to be a third style muffler used on late 65s and early 66s. Since the information is not in the manual I can't guarantee what a particular judge will do. At this point, I would check with the team leader or mechanical team at a regional event. I should have a better idea after the N.C Regional.

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                    • John R.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • November 1, 2005
                      • 433

                      #11
                      Re: 64-65 Air Conditioning Compressor muffler, correct?

                      Jerry and Harry, thanks for the input. I see the photos in Nolands book, pg 217.

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