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  • Richard M.
    Super Moderator
    • August 31, 1988
    • 11323

    1967 Rally Wheel DC versus DG and Date Codes ?

    I've found a set of 5 restored Rally wheels. Each has the "DG" large stamp. There is the "GM" stamp on the nubs.

    KH wheels with stamps "1 67", "2 67". Note that the "1" and "2" were upside down with respect to the "67". Is the 1 and 2 the month, or the manufacturing plant. If so, is 1 = Romulus MI, what is "2" ? What is the dating secret on these. JG has no info.

    I took many photos as you can imagine. I got home and the memory card in my camera got corrupted so I have NO pictures.

    These are 1967 wheels correct? Would these DG wheels be considered typical for a late March car?

    I have very limited knowledge with these wheels. Archives spotty and mostly C3 "AZ" info.

    Thanks,
    Rich
    Last edited by Richard M.; March 22, 2015, 04:44 PM.
  • Lawrence S.
    Very Frequent User
    • April 1, 1993
    • 801

    #2
    Re: 1967 Rally Wheel DC versus DG and Date Codes ?

    My 67 L36 Coupe has a body build of Feb 16 1967. I bought the car from the third owner who had owned the car 40 years. He was the past President of Good Year Tire and Rubber Company. The original spare tire and wheel were in the tub when I went to look at the car and the stamp is "DG". My understanding is that for Jan and Feb 67 the DG stamped rallys were on some cars.

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    • John M.
      Expired
      • January 1, 1998
      • 813

      #3
      Re: 1967 Rally Wheel DC versus DG and Date Codes ?

      My March 67, purchased from the original owner, has 5 DG wheels.

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      • Richard M.
        Super Moderator
        • August 31, 1988
        • 11323

        #4
        Re: 1967 Rally Wheel DC versus DG and Date Codes ?

        Thanks guys, this is great info. This is a March 30th car.

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        • Larry M.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • January 1, 1992
          • 2688

          #5
          Re: 1967 Rally Wheel DC versus DG and Date Codes ?

          Originally posted by Richard Mozzetta (13499)
          Thanks guys, this is great info. This is a March 30th car.
          I believe that most LATE March cars had the DC wheels. My March 28 built car has a DC spare wheel (other 4 wheels are now reproduction bolt-ons……..so they can't help).

          A very good article about all this was in the Restorer about 5+ years or so ago. I'm going on memory, but problems with the machine making and stamping the DC wheels caused production to be shift to another line for awhile during repairs/rebuild. The result of that was the DG stamped rally-wheels.

          Very early 1967 models had "B" stamped wheels………but for most of the year DC was the common/correct stamp. During Dec 1966 thru Feb 1967 DG were used for the reasons given above.

          EDIT: The Restorer article I mentioned above is Volume 36, Number 3, by Wendel Hans. Titled "Authenicating 1967 Rallye Wheels". Winter 2010. Excellent info/account of what actually took place, including a survey of cars by wheel stamp and VIN/date car produced.
          Last edited by Larry M.; March 22, 2015, 02:07 PM.

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          • John M.
            Expired
            • January 1, 1998
            • 813

            #6
            Re: 1967 Rally Wheel DC versus DG and Date Codes ?

            Larry, My 67 is a March 21st car plus or minus a day and has DGs. I bought this car from the original owner who would have had no reason to change all 5.
            John

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            • Larry M.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • January 1, 1992
              • 2688

              #7
              Re: 1967 Rally Wheel DC versus DG and Date Codes ?

              Originally posted by John McRae (30025)
              Larry, My 67 is a March 21st car plus or minus a day and has DGs. I bought this car from the original owner who would have had no reason to change all 5.
              John
              John:

              I believe you………. I said above that "MOST" LATE MARCH 1967 cars would have DC wheel sets. That means that some late March cars would not have DC stamped wheels. If you look at the car build date versus wheel stamp chart in the Restorer article I referenced, you will see this. March is a mixed month, but April-May-June-July show essentially all (or all) DC wheel sets.

              My 1967 car is a 26,000 mile car with the original spare still in the tub. We can both be correct with what we have, as March was a mixed month for wheel stamps, but by late March or April, it was all DC stamps.

              DC stamped wheels were also seen/used Oct-Dec 1966 until that wheel machine broke. Then we got the DGs for awhile.

              Larry

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              • John M.
                Expired
                • January 1, 1998
                • 813

                #8
                Re: 1967 Rally Wheel DC versus DG and Date Codes ?

                Thanks Larry. You forgot to put "most" in caps and I am a bit paranoid having been quizzed on the DG more than once.
                John

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                • Richard M.
                  Super Moderator
                  • August 31, 1988
                  • 11323

                  #9
                  Re: 1967 Rally Wheel DC versus DG and Date Codes ?

                  This is still great information. Thanks Larry.

                  I'll find my Restorer and read the article. Thanks for finding article the reference date.

                  Rich

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                  • Philip C.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • December 1, 1984
                    • 1117

                    #10
                    Re: 1967 Rally Wheel DC versus DG and Date Codes ?

                    FYI my 11K vin had 5 DG wheels. Phil 8063 still have the wheels.

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                    • Richard M.
                      Super Moderator
                      • August 31, 1988
                      • 11323

                      #11
                      Re: 1967 Rally Wheel DC versus DG and Date Codes ?

                      Okay, I found the Article and read it very carefully. Great Article. IMO, there is one caveat in the text. It says,

                      ".......DG wheels are found on early January 1967 to mid-March 1967 Corvettes."

                      I guess being a bit of a skeptic, I'm curious how was the "mid" of March determined? If wheels were made in January and February, how many were made, and how many Corvettes used base wheels? (rhetorically questioned)

                      Another question......In Judging, is the Trim Ring removed to observe the B or DC or DG Broadcast Code Stamp? Or can it be seen with the Trim Ring installed?

                      The Article also answered my question about the date stamps. .....

                      "Hand applied with separate stamps, the month of the assembly can be 1 through 12. The year of assembly can be a 66 or a 67. The month and year stamps can be upside down or right side up, at angles or not, next to each other and sometimes broken, illegible, or missing."

                      I understand that the dates are not judged for obvious reasons, but good for the "authenticity" effect in pictures of restorations.

                      Thanks to all for helping me learn. I need a set of 5 Rally wheels and I feel I have a good candidate. 5 fully restored, Black backs, dull Argent silver fronts with a few runs opposite the valve stems, slight overspray of silver over the black rear, NOS centers, fully restored original 4-clip Trim rings. All I'd need is the center caps and ornaments, which I suppose will have to be reproductions. Thoughts about those repros?

                      Rich
                      p.s. please don't ask what I'll be paying for these. Trust me....it's alot.

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                      • Vinnie P.
                        Editor NCRS Restorer Magazine
                        • May 31, 1990
                        • 1563

                        #12
                        Re: 1967 Rally Wheel DC versus DG and Date Codes ?

                        Rich asked me to post this article from the Winter 2010 issue of The Restorer

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