Chain of ownership....
I am the original owner of my 1966 coupe, ordered it for my 23rd birthday. My name and address (when I took delivery) are in the back of my warranty manual. Is there anything on that back page that verifies me as the original owner? I ask this because I was once questioned as to weather I was really the first owner. During the NCRS judging process I know most of the parts which are original to the car and which I have replaced. A judge has suggested I might not be the original owner and my story about "original parts" might not be the whole truth. So, does anything in the warranty book prove I am the original and only owner? Thanks! Bill
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Bill------
Isn't your name and address on the Protecto-Plate? Is the judge saying he thinks that could have been altered?
Another verification of your being the original owner would be if you have the first year registration card. A registration card with your date of purchase of the car (i.e. initial date of registration) and in your name would be proof-positive that you're the original owner. I have mine.In Appreciation of John Hinckley -
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Joe,
Yes, my name and address are in the back of the book, in reverse text and I have the plastic registration card with my name and the cars VIN. In years past someone has reproed these plastic cars so I am not sure how much creditability it lends to me, my card is original. BillComment
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Did you keep a copy of your first OK title or does NM have a copy of it on file from when you made the change? Most titles have a reference block to
"Previous title" which either shows as a state or a state and a number - in the case of original titles, it may be blank or read N/A or None.Comment
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copy or original title,registration from first time registered etc., call your state where first registered and see what info they have. how about any maintenance orders/paperwork from first year of ownership etc. at chevy or anywhere oil change etc. done?Michael
70 Mulsanne Blue LT-1
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Joe & Loren,
Joe I mis-read your post referencing original registration. I should have my original Florida registration. I will look. Thanks! BillComment
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Bill,
I think it's so cool that you still have your car 49 years later. Do you have the paperwork that you signed at the dealership when you bought the car? That kind of stuff is hard to fake. It, also, sounds like you have the patience of Job...if someone called my integrity into play, i may not be so kind. Don't call me a liar unless you can prove it.,,kinda like innocent until proven guilty. Off the soapbox.Leif
'67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
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Bill,
that type of behavior from a judge is ridiculous. That is something you should have reported to the head judge of the meet. That person should be instructed that that is not how we act. If they don't understand, they should not be allowed to represent the NCRS again. It is that type of behavior that gives our organization a bad name.
GeorgeComment
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Bill, Any of us can obtain our own DMV records if the records were kept by the DMV. Only a few states to my knowledge have older records but it is worth a try. I can send you the forms if you wish. Bill GouldComment
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I completely agree with George. A judge saying "...might not be... the original owner ", is ridiculous. One moronic comment should not have you questioning your situation. A car with every conceivable original document could still have a judge comment "might they be fakes". Judge the appearance of the car (originality & condition) based on what you "know"; NOT what you think or might be.
PhilComment
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This is a long shot but....., if you have insured the car with the same company all these years they may have a record of when your first policy began - even if you don't have the Vette insured with the company now, if you are still doing business with the company (insuring your daily driver) they might have a record of the Vette being insured under your name - with the VIN. Good luck.EdComment
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I don't understand why a judge would doubt you. he should be dismissed or at least told to give you the benefit of the doubt.Comment
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Where and how does this come into play during the judging process? I bought my 63 along with my buddy as a 50/50 partner while we were in the Army. His Mom ordered it in her name through a dealer friend in a small Wisconsin town (they were both in the local Business Association). The price we paid was a good $500 less than list (a lot of money at the time for a couple of PFC's). You can imagine over the years the paper work we went through before I finally ended up as sole owner after he died in 1975. I bought out his share from his wife for $10.00 as she knew I would take good care of it for the intrinsic value it represented. I don't care what any judge thinks about my story and all the paper work (including letters) that confirm it. It is what it is and it means a lot to me.
Stu FoxComment
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Let's face it. If you're willing to spend enough; almost anything can be replicated...one of the exceptions being an original State issued title. If you have that...no argumentsComment
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