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  • John D.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • December 1, 1979
    • 5507

    #16
    Re: 1963 Steel Rims from Corvette Specialties

    Gary, Scroll down to the bottom of the page to "similiar posts". Poncho, etc posted nice pics of '63 rims.
    By now most every judge can easily spot a '63 wheel in a heartbeat. Well maybe not the one in MD though.

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    • Brian T.
      Very Frequent User
      • September 30, 1990
      • 190

      #17
      Re: 1963 Steel Rims from Corvette Specialties

      Wheels are in process, and coming along. You can expect the usual high standards that we maintain!

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      • Joseph S.
        National Judging Chairman
        • March 1, 1985
        • 873

        #18
        Re: 1963 Steel Rims from Corvette Specialties

        Brian, I just received a pair of the 65-66 wheels and must tell you, they look great.

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        • Harry S.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • July 31, 2002
          • 5310

          #19
          Re: 1963 Steel Rims from Corvette Specialties

          I just received a set of Brian's 63/64 wheels. The look excellent. The DOT and GM influenced the final wheel. There is a stamp on the inside that I imagine the DOT mandated. A little JB weld and some sanding will magically make it disappear. There is a weld on the inside that I imagine the DOT also demanded. You can add your own date code or KH stamps but since it can't be seen I'd just ignore that. There is no GM stamp on the outside. That can also be added easily. The nubs by the valve stem hole are there.

          Summary, Unless you want to pay $2500 for 5 restored wheels Brian's price for 5 being somewhere around $875 is the better deal. Hopefully the $2500 restored set has all the run-out straightened and they all have lug nut holes that are not stretched to big.

          Just an FYI..................


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          • Wayne M.
            Expired
            • March 1, 1980
            • 6414

            #20
            Re: 1963 Steel Rims from Corvette Specialties

            Slightly OT, but are the '65-66 judges able to detect the 2nd production run 15 x 5_12 JK's produced in the 1984 timeframe (maybe by looking through the wheelcover openings and reading the stamping on the nubs) ? The stampings on either side of the air valve are not visible with a wheel cover in place as long as as this wheel is not used as the spare.
            Attached Files

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            • Bill W.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • March 1, 1980
              • 2000

              #21
              Re: 1963 Steel Rims from Corvette Specialties

              Wayne I dont want to hijack a 63/64 post but what is the difference in a late & early 65/66 wheel and when was the change ?

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              • Bill W.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • March 1, 1980
                • 2000

                #22
                Re: 1963 Steel Rims from Corvette Specialties

                John when did the 63/64 wheels have the small hole drilled in the hub bump area ? I restored a 63 Conv. a couple years ago and it had 4 63 wheels and one wheel with a hole . It was a very late 63 vin 20937 (576 from the end ). could it have come with the 64 wheel or do you think it was a replacement ?

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                • Bob J.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • December 1, 1977
                  • 715

                  #23
                  Re: 1963 Steel Rims from Corvette Specialties

                  Where are these new repo wheels made?

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                  • Harry S.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • July 31, 2002
                    • 5310

                    #24
                    Re: 1963 Steel Rims from Corvette Specialties

                    Originally posted by Bob Jorjorian (1619)
                    Where are these new repo wheels made?
                    I guess JD posted then deleted it??? I read it earlier.

                    I'll let Brian reveal where they are made as I don't know.


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                    • Mark D.
                      1984-86 Team Leader
                      • June 30, 1988
                      • 2152

                      #25
                      Re: 1963 Steel Rims from Corvette Specialties

                      If differences are found between the repops and real, hopefully requisite deductions will be made during judging. I applaud anyone making a quality reproduction but, the guys with real components deserve the higher scores.
                      Kramden

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                      • Jimmy G.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • November 1, 1979
                        • 976

                        #26
                        Re: 1963 Steel Rims from Corvette Specialties

                        Mark and others

                        The problem with your thought on this is that original parts were made by several vendors sometimes. Even when they were made by one vendor they were made on several different sets of tooling and or production machinery. Therefore even OEM parts will show some minor differences. if a restoration part is within those guidelines we should not take deductions. One of the issue we (I) have in NCRS now is that judges are taking point deductions on parts that fall into the above category. We are even calling original engines as restoration engines in some cases. These cars were made by hourly union wage workers, not skilled craftsman. Our judging expectation and standard is now way beyond the way these cars were ever produced.
                        Founder - Carolinas Chapter NCRS

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                        • Mark D.
                          1984-86 Team Leader
                          • June 30, 1988
                          • 2152

                          #27
                          Re: 1963 Steel Rims from Corvette Specialties

                          I respectfully disagree with that argument. It's the NCRS way to research and understand the production differences, you reference. Production variations are typical. A reproduction part made with easily detectable non-typical differences is a whole other animal.

                          It will, everytime, undermine the standard to knowingly look the other way.
                          Kramden

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                          • Timothy B.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • April 30, 1983
                            • 5186

                            #28
                            Re: 1963 Steel Rims from Corvette Specialties

                            I glanced at what I believe is a set of CSOM west reproduction 65-66 wheels and visually the big difference I saw is the weld attaching the rim to the center section and no GM or KH stamp on the raised spider section. This may be a DOT mandate I don't know but they look like nice reproduction wheels.

                            So do these judge the same or better than the 65-66 KH wheels I own with riveted attachment points (rim to center). I still can't figure out how that happened, they are stamped GM, no stamps by the valve stem but I just can't remember the date it's been so long since tires were mounted.

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                            • John D.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • December 1, 1979
                              • 5507

                              #29
                              Re: 1963 Steel Rims from Corvette Specialties

                              My son had a set of 65-66 wheels for sale at Carlisle. He was selling them for a close friend. Price was very fair (not selling parts here )
                              but no interest except for comments that the repos were a much better deal.
                              Not saying anything else. Tongue in cheek.
                              I do not have the wheels anymore as my friend took them back to New York although he said he might pitch them on the way back to his car as he had to carry them two at a time for a long distance.

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                              • Bob J.
                                Very Frequent User
                                • December 1, 1977
                                • 715

                                #30
                                Re: 1963 Steel Rims from Corvette Specialties

                                Originally posted by Mark Donnally (13264)
                                If differences are found between the repops and real, hopefully requisite deductions will be made during judging. I applaud anyone making a quality reproduction but, the guys with real components deserve the higher scores.
                                Mark, I agree 100%.
                                I guess it is some kind of secret on where these repo wheels are made and nobody wants to post online.
                                I got 2 PMs saying they are made in CHINA.

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