Distributor Restoration Question

[John C.]

Hi,


I have not received my JM yet and I'm in the process of restoring the distributor.....what exactly is NCRS looking for in a restoration? I have cleaned up the original cap clips and oil tube....they look funky, but are original.....or do they want refinished/re-plated/knock-off stuff that looks like new?


Thanks!


John

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[Philip A.]

Re: Distributor Restoration Question

John
This is actually a distributor judging question and would have been better to title it that. Items are judged based on both originality (appearance of and not whether repro or not) and condition. Some repro parts are indistinguishable from original in appearance and should receive full credit; others are clearly not and do not. Condition is more subjective and involves color, finish, plating, lack of pitting, lack of oxidation, etc. So the desire would be a part that appears original and looks new. Depending on the part this may be repro, or original restored, or NOS.
Phil

[John C.]

Re: Distributor Restoration Question

So the desire would be a part that appears original and looks new. Depending on the part this may be repro, or original restored, or NOS.

Hi Phil,

Ok.....got it!

Hopefully, I will soon be receiving the new edition JM......does it mention if the outside distributor point housing is to be painted (black?)

Thanks so much....truly appreciate your response!

John

[Frank D.]

Re: Distributor Restoration Question

Hmmm.... condition judging is subjective ?
I thought the whole premise of judging was that it was predicated on a published standard and hence, subjectivity is eliminated (as much as possible)...

[Steven B.]

Re: Distributor Restoration Question

John, I prefer to go straight to the horses mouth. The National Judging Chairman and your 56/57 Team Leader have contact info. above under CONTACTS. You will find David and John extremely helpful. Steve

[John C.]

Re: Distributor Restoration Question

Hi Steven,

Great, thank you!

John

[Philip A.]

Re: Distributor Restoration Question

Hi Phil,

Ok.....got it!

Hopefully, I will soon be receiving the new edition JM......does it mention if the outside distributor point housing is to be painted (black?)

Thanks so much....truly appreciate your response!

John

John
this TDB is loaded with comments about part finish / condition that is very subjective. I have seen folks post comments about losing points because: engine paint hue looked too red, too orange, to glossy, a black painted part appeared too light, too dark, too matte, to glossy, plated part appeared too bright, too dull, too whatever. I would bet there was a lot more variation and less consistency with these cars when built new.
Phil

[John C.]

Re: Distributor Restoration Question

John
this TDB is loaded with comments about part finish / condition that is very subjective. I have seen folks post comments about losing points because: engine paint hue looked too red, too orange, to glossy, a black painted part appeared too light, too dark, too matte, to glossy, plated part appeared too bright, too dull, too whatever. I would bet there was a lot more variation and less consistency with these cars when built new.
Phil

Hi Phil,

Jeeze, what have I got myself into here.....well, I'll just trudge on but it would be nice if there were documented photos/examples/color samples in the TDB of *exactly* what they are looking for to eliminate what seems like a guessing game and the possibility of redoing a part that is not quite up to snuff.....subjectively speaking!

Thank you.

John

[Terry M.]

Re: Distributor Restoration Question

Hi Phil,

Jeeze, what have I got myself into here.....well, I'll just trudge on but it would be nice if there were documented photos/examples/color samples in the TDB of *exactly* what they are looking for to eliminate what seems like a guessing game and the possibility of redoing a part that is not quite up to snuff.....subjectively speaking!

Thank you.

John

John
You might find it interesting that some officers of the club have successfully argued against color in the TIM&JGs for exactly the reasons you cite. They state that there are too many variables in color reproduction to have the judging manuals contain color photos. They don't want folks to restore their cars to that standard because it is too flexible. Thus, to date, all the manuals are in black & white.

[John C.]

Re: Distributor Restoration Question

John
You might find it interesting that some officers of the club have successfully argued against color in the TIM&JGs for exactly the reasons you cite. They state that there are too many variables in color reproduction to have the judging manuals contain color photos. They don't want folks to restore their cars to that standard because it is too flexible. Thus, to date, all the manuals are in black & white.

Hi Terry,

Yes, I do find it interesting....too many variables in color reproduction, so a written description of the part is then interpreted by the restorer and the outcome is based on the subjectivity of an individual!


Gasp....can the judges be bribed? :-D


Thanks!


John

[Philip A.]

Re: Distributor Restoration Question

Hi Phil,

Jeeze, what have I got myself into here.....well, I'll just trudge on but it would be nice if there were documented photos/examples/color samples in the TDB of *exactly* what they are looking for to eliminate what seems like a guessing game and the possibility of redoing a part that is not quite up to snuff.....subjectively speaking!

Thank you.

John

John
Apologies. My post was directed at Frank, who was giving the impression that subjectivity was eliminated as much as possible. Based on the comments from myself and Terry, you can see that there is subjectivity, and always will be. Although the JMs do not contain color photos, the membership here is second to none and folks glady post on the TDB color photos of parts upon request.
phil

[John C.]

Re: Distributor Restoration Question

John
Although the JMs do not contain color photos, the membership here is second to none and folks glady post on the TDB color photos of parts upon request.
phil

Ok, good news......thank you Phil!

John