Ncrs judging nontypical original parts
I am taking my almost all option 70 454 Bronze Corvette to the Phoenix Regional. VIN # is 7601 & has the 2 mast flat antenna,Exauest manifolds with the square plugs & a RWL tiger paw original spare. I know that there is mention of the manifolds & antenna in the judging guide but not the tire. I can use the Goodyear RWL from my 70 LT-1 but would like to show it with the original tire. How many points will lose with the nontypical tire? I bought the Corvette from the first owner & he did nothing to the car. It had 40,000 MI. & original paint interior ETC when I bought it in the late 80'S.
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65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
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The tires are addressed in the Judging Reference Manual under a standard deduction table -
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I'm not familiar with the new cars - what is a "2 mast flat antenna?"Comment
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65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
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Ken-I thought I remembered, but double checked the TIMJG: Red line tires were not available for the 70 model-69 was last year. Available were the standard tire (black wall), White Stripe option PT7 and White Lettered option PU9. So, if you show up with redlines, I am afraid you are liable to have a larger point deduct than you would like-10% for OEM brand & size, but differs from original for DOT, 20% deduct for OEM brand, type, size, but differs from original-i.e., stripe color. If they are not one of the 3 OEM brands that could be up 60% deduct. I would suggest you check out the Tires section in the guide, page 50.
MikeComment
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If you have the original spare that came with the car, why would you lose points for it being non-typical?Comment
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Mikey is right. Your original spare will get full credit (depending on condition.) The four road tires should all match each other but, the spare can be different as long as all five tires were originally available.
If your spare is original to the vehicle, it may score better than the four road tires, if the road tires are reproduction. Again, that will depend on condition.
In the end, you will be at the mercy of 'The Real Deal' to determine if there are any 'Issues.'KramdenComment
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Because it is a raised white lettered tiger paw which is NOT a NCRS approved brand on a 70. I guess I will put the Goodyear RWL original spare from my 70 LT-1 & bring the other one for show & tell. The rim original spare is correct dated & tire appears to have never been off the rim. Dose anyone know how to decode the tire for a date code. Thanks all.65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
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As as far as I know there is decoding/date information available for pre January 1971 Goodyear tires. I am not aware of any way to decode Firestone or Uniroyal tires made prior to January 1971. Tires made after January 1971 can have the date codes decoded easily.Comment
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Barry, a little egg on my face; I thought you meant your spare was a redline. In re-checking the tech guide; the US Royal option raised letter read "Uniroyal Tiger Paw". Now if yours does not have the Uniroyal as part of the script, and no manufacturer date code prior to 71, as indicated by Dave, it will as indicated; be up to Judges discrepancy. 70 would have had a DOT stamp, so that's not an issue. One step further, let's say no Uniroyal, and no code; if you have the tank sticker or other documentation; I would suggest most Judges are going to give you the full Originality credit for the spare-they would be hard pressed at that point to stand on their soap box, and typically in such situation the owner gets the nod. The four on the ground can be judged separately and will all be subject to the standard deducts in the Reference manual.
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THANKS GUYS. I will look at the Uniroyal Tiger Paw & if it is as you say I will let it be judged with that tire. That is the spare that was that was there when I bought the car. Didn't look like it had never been out of the tire carrier. Unfortunately only the top portion of the tank sticker was left on the tank.65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
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Ken,
Check to see if the tire has the "long" code indicative of a post January 1971 tire. From memory that would be 11 letters/numbers. If so the last 3 would be numbers. Example 152 would be the 15 th week of 1972. If that type of code is on the tire it would definitely be to late. If it has the "short" code then you certainally have an argument that the tire was made prior to January of 1971. Doesn't assure you have the proper tire but at least it has a chance. With the long code it has no chance in my opinion. That's what an experienced exterior judge will do.Comment
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I was helping a local corvette guy sort some of his tires. I have a list of the codes off of some NOS tiger paws. These are all F70 15. Maybe these will help you figure out the age of your tire.
JW291V PA8675 X0940T UW291V Z1083T Z0871T Z1083T X0968T Z0671T S1294D Comment
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