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  • Donald A.
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    • January 6, 2013
    • 239

    what is an original PS pump and pulley worth, 1970 BB car

    All;

    Could use some advise. (keep in mind I have very little knowledge on this subject)

    My 70 LS-5 was NOT a power steering car from the factory and I want to change this and put on a factory PS unit.

    Found someone who has original 70 BB PS pump and pulley that will sell it. He wants me to make an offer.

    I've got to idea what this is worth vs. buying new parts and or the cost to have an original restored/refurbed????

    Does it matter if I have an original part on this stuff or is the new stuff correct.

    I need an education about what to do

    thanks for any help

    Don
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  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • January 31, 1988
    • 43197

    #2
    Re: what is an original PS pump and pulley worth, 1970 BB car

    Originally posted by Donald Ayers (57880)
    All;

    Could use some advise. (keep in mind I have very little knowledge on this subject)

    My 70 LS-5 was NOT a power steering car from the factory and I want to change this and put on a factory PS unit.

    Found someone who has original 70 BB PS pump and pulley that will sell it. He wants me to make an offer.

    I've got to idea what this is worth vs. buying new parts and or the cost to have an original restored/refurbed????

    Does it matter if I have an original part on this stuff or is the new stuff correct.

    I need an education about what to do

    thanks for any help

    Don

    Don------


    A used pulley can usually be bought for about $100 to $125. A high quality, completely rebuilt pump with correct reservoir can be purchased for about $75. A pump core (which is all you're really buying here) is only worth about 25 bucks, max. It appears that the pump you pictured also includes the support bracket. That's worth about $30, used. All-in-all, I'd say 150 bucks is about all I'd offer.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Donald A.
      Expired
      • January 6, 2013
      • 239

      #3
      Re: what is an original PS pump and pulley worth, 1970 BB car

      Joe

      thank you so much. Exactly what I needed.

      I think ink it would be fun to rehab original parts. I will see if he will sell for $150

      best

      don

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      • Don H.
        Moderator
        • June 16, 2009
        • 2241

        #4
        Re: what is an original PS pump and pulley worth, 1970 BB car

        Don
        I bet your seller wants 3-5 times the value Joe places on those parts. They are worth peanuts to Joe because he no doubt has racks of NOS units in boxes on the shelves of his garage. To normal people that do not have tons of old parts, these are a little hard to find, and pricey. Still, I hope Joe is correct and your seller feels as he does as to value.
        Good luck

        A new replacement assembly would differ from an original in significant ways, and would be identified in judging as NTFP. I don't know if that original assembly is "super" rare, but it is rare, and people want it to do what you are doing, and have it be an undetectable addition to their car. In my opinion if you are interested in NCRS type restoration you seek original parts when you can find and afford them. If not interested in as original restoration, then you buy new equivalent parts. All my comments here assume the assembly in question is correct for your car or else Joe would have said so if not.
        Last edited by Don H.; December 9, 2014, 09:22 AM.

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        • Donald A.
          Expired
          • January 6, 2013
          • 239

          #5
          Re: what is an original PS pump and pulley worth, 1970 BB car

          Thanks Don for reply.

          I guess my my real question is this. If these original parts had not appeared and I was forced to buy new ones would they be the same as original? Is the replacement pump available now the same as this original and would it matter from a judging standpoint??

          if these are not super rare and important parts then why should anyone expect them to be priced higher that new equivalent replacements?

          one way or another I'm going to get my PS��

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          • Alan S.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • July 31, 1989
            • 3415

            #6
            Re: what is an original PS pump and pulley worth, 1970 BB car

            Hi Don,
            I agree with Don H. that's there's something satisfying about using restored original era parts on a car that is worthy of the effort and cost that approach takes.
            If you've been conscientious about restoring original parts for your car, then adding these restored (by you, or someone else as needed) parts I think continues in that vein and is worthwhile.
            Regards,
            Alan
            71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
            Mason Dixon Chapter
            Chapter Top Flight October 2011

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • January 31, 1988
              • 43197

              #7
              Re: what is an original PS pump and pulley worth, 1970 BB car

              Originally posted by Donald Ayers (57880)
              Thanks Don for reply.

              I guess my my real question is this. If these original parts had not appeared and I was forced to buy new ones would they be the same as original? Is the replacement pump available now the same as this original and would it matter from a judging standpoint??

              if these are not super rare and important parts then why should anyone expect them to be priced higher that new equivalent replacements?

              one way or another I'm going to get my PS��
              Don------

              None of these parts are "super rare" or even close to that. The pulley was used on ALL 1965-74 Corvettes with big block and power steering. You can find used pulleys that are absolutely identical to the one you pictured on eBay and elsewhere. They sell in the price range I previously mentioned.

              The 1967-74 power steering pumps (just the pump, excluding the reservoir) are for all intents and purposes identical. I don't think anyone could discern any difference in them. These pumps are PLENTIFUL. They were not used just on Corvettes. They were used across all GM carlines. Corvette pumps (as well as certain others) did contain a power steering fluid filter. However, this filter is usually omitted in commercial rebuilds. It is entirely internal to the pump and reservoir assembly and I know of no source for replacement elements for this filter.

              The pump RESERVOIR was unique to Corvettes. However, the same reservoir was used for all 1967-74 Corvettes. This reservoir is not rare. Any 1967-74 Corvette original pump will include one. This reservoir is also reproduced.

              The pump support bracket was used for ALL 1965-74 Corvettes with big block. It is not rare. Plenty of used examples out there as well as NOS. Reproductions also available.

              The pump assembly you pictured cannot be worth more than the sum of the value of its parts. The values I placed on the parts are my ESTIMATES of their value. Could I be off? Of course (but there's no way that I'm way off).

              By the way, lots of folks think that parts that were originally installed on a Corvette are automatically "super rare" and/or of high value. Sometimes they're right. But, not in the case of these parts.
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Michael W.
                Expired
                • March 31, 1997
                • 4290

                #8
                Re: what is an original PS pump and pulley worth, 1970 BB car

                Originally posted by Donald Ayers (57880)
                Is the replacement pump available now the same as this original and would it matter from a judging standpoint??
                Adding/deleting options is a sore topic in judging.

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                • Donald A.
                  Expired
                  • January 6, 2013
                  • 239

                  #9
                  Re: what is an original PS pump and pulley worth, 1970 BB car

                  Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                  Don------

                  None of these parts are "super rare" or even close to that. The pulley was used on ALL 1965-74 Corvettes with big block and power steering. You can find used pulleys that are absolutely identical to the one you pictured on eBay and elsewhere. They sell in the price range I previously mentioned.

                  The 1967-74 power steering pumps (just the pump, excluding the reservoir) are for all intents and purposes identical. I don't think anyone could discern any difference in them. These pumps are PLENTIFUL. They were not used just on Corvettes. They were used across all GM carlines. Corvette pumps (as well as certain others) did contain a power steering fluid filter. However, this filter is usually omitted in commercial rebuilds. It is entirely internal to the pump and reservoir assembly and I know of no source for replacement elements for this filter.

                  The pump RESERVOIR was unique to Corvettes. However, the same reservoir was used for all 1967-74 Corvettes. This reservoir is not rare. Any 1967-74 Corvette original pump will include one. This reservoir is also reproduced.

                  The pump support bracket was used for ALL 1965-74 Corvettes with big block. It is not rare. Plenty of used examples out there as well as NOS. Reproductions also available.

                  The pump assembly you pictured cannot be worth more than the sum of the value of its parts. The values I placed on the parts are my ESTIMATES of their value. Could I be off? Of course (but there's no way that I'm way off).

                  By the way, lots of folks think that parts that were originally installed on a Corvette are automatically "super rare" and/or of high value. Sometimes they're right. But, not in the case of these parts.

                  Joe and all

                  thanks again for all the input. I have made a deal with the seller for the suggested price.

                  Now I will make another post regarding the correct AC compressor he has. Another subject I'm equally ignorant at.

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