painting prep c2 - NCRS Discussion Boards

painting prep c2

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • F H.
    Expired
    • February 28, 1982
    • 26

    painting prep c2

    i am going to re paint the hard top on my 63. Would appreciate some input on paint stripper vs sanding/priming. On painter advised against stripper because "it permeates the fiberglass making it difficult to repaint"?? Thanks
  • Richard M.
    Super Moderator
    • August 31, 1988
    • 11306

    #2
    Re: painting prep c2

    I use Captain Lee's Spra Strip exclusively for Corvette fiberglass. A proven product.

    It's made to be used on fiberglass. After use, a thorough wash with liquid soap and water and several rinses, good drying time and your fiberglass will look like it just came from the Press-Molding jig.

    Comment

    • Tom A.
      NCRS Body & Paint Advisor
      • May 31, 1986
      • 138

      #3
      Re: painting prep c2

      I agree with the Captain Lee's. I've been using it for over 30 yrs with no problems. Follow directions carefully.

      Comment

      • Robert D.
        Very Frequent User
        • March 31, 2003
        • 305

        #4
        Re: painting prep c2

        soda blasting will work great thats how i strip all my fiberglass leaves a nice surface finish

        Comment

        • Richard M.
          Super Moderator
          • August 31, 1988
          • 11306

          #5
          Re: painting prep c2

          Originally posted by Robert DeFalco (39668)
          soda blasting will work great thats how i strip all my fiberglass leaves a nice surface finish
          Yes that's good too. I had the undersides of the trunk & decklid on a '59 done with soda and they came out great.

          Stripper takes much time on pieces like that. I used stripper on the door ends and bottoms and it took much time with all of the crevices on those surfaces. Afterwards, I'd wished I used soda on those too.

          Rich

          Comment

          • Richard M.
            Super Moderator
            • August 31, 1988
            • 11306

            #6
            Re: painting prep c2

            Found my photos of those panels before & after soda, stripper, crack repairs, prime, paint.


            PC170001.jpgPC170013.jpgPC170016.jpgp8080246.jpgp8080247.jpg

            P5140009.jpgP5140010.jpgP5140011.jpgP5140012.jpgP5140014.jpg


            This is what had to deal with after removing paint on the door sides/bottoms. I used stripper on those. As much as it's a good product on large flat surfaces, it's a pain on door crevices. But I think I just got impatient and instead of waiting for my soda blaster guy, I did it myself. Once I got the paint (many layers of re-paints) off I found cracks and damage. A bit of time sorting that out.

            P9130001.jpgP9130004.jpgP9130007.jpgP9270001.jpgP9270002.jpg

            P7230008.jpgP7230009.jpgP6220004.JPGP6220006.JPGP6220007.JPG

            PB230011.jpgPB230013.jpgPB230014.jpgPB230015.jpg
            Attached Files

            Comment

            • Leif A.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • August 31, 1997
              • 3611

              #7
              Re: painting prep c2

              Very nice work, Rich...beautiful car!!
              Leif
              '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
              Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

              Comment

              • Edward J.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • September 15, 2008
                • 6940

                #8
                Re: painting prep c2

                Rich, Where's the finished product Pic.'s? Just wondering what is the cost of soda blasting looks like a great way to remove paint?
                New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

                Comment

                • Michael G.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • December 31, 1996
                  • 1251

                  #9
                  Re: painting prep c2

                  I've used Captain Lee's on several Corvettes with excellent results. As other have mentioned 'thoroughly' wash your sub-straight after every application.....rinsing several times. To date have had no issues later down the road using Captain Lee's.

                  I've discovered recently that Captain Lees' is no longer sold in the supply stores here in the Okc area....very disappointing to hear. Will have to source elsewhere.

                  Comment

                  • Tom A.
                    NCRS Body & Paint Advisor
                    • May 31, 1986
                    • 138

                    #10
                    Re: painting prep c2

                    You can buy Captain Lee's direct from Halon marketing.

                    Comment

                    • Robert D.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • March 31, 2003
                      • 305

                      #11
                      Re: painting prep c2

                      Soda blasting is a littlae more expensive than other types of blasting. i had my 59 hood done and it cost around 150 dollars. the reason is because you cannot recycle the soda. the benifits are many the soda does not harm glass or metal parts. also water dissolves it so you wash the parts and thats it its done with other media i find that no matter how good you think you clean it the stuff comes out of everywhere for a long time
                      good luck
                      bob

                      Comment

                      • Michael G.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • December 31, 1996
                        • 1251

                        #12
                        Re: painting prep c2

                        Originally posted by Tom Ames (9906)
                        You can buy Captain Lee's direct from Halon marketing.

                        Good news, I was hoping someone would speak up.....thanks Tom.

                        Comment

                        • Richard M.
                          Super Moderator
                          • August 31, 1988
                          • 11306

                          #13
                          Re: painting prep c2

                          Originally posted by Leif Anderson (29632)
                          Very nice work, Rich...beautiful car!!
                          Thanks Leif. It was quite a project.

                          Originally posted by Edward Johnson (49497)
                          Rich, Where's the finished product Pic.'s? Just wondering what is the cost of soda blasting looks like a great way to remove paint?
                          Edward, The entire external body was soda blasted by the owners local shop. It cost him $1k. Fortunately, I had no role in the decision, however I was left with a real challenge and I was displeased with their process. They did NOT use the traditional soda with water method. It was a dry method with additional media added to reduce dust. What this did was penetrate the fiberglass too much and caused a surface which was very rough. I ended up replacing the front nose on this car as it has too much prior damage.

                          PB040001.jpgPB040002.jpgPB040003.jpgPB040004.jpgPB040009.jpgPB040010.jpgPB040011.jpgPB040012.jpgPB040013.jpg

                          Here you can see the rough texture left by the improper soda media usage.
                          PB040017.jpgPB040018.jpg

                          I had to use a thick 2 part surfacing primer to level out the entire body. The product I used was Duratec. It is similar to Slick-Sand. Both are polyester based.
                          P7230002.jpgP7230003.jpgP7230005.jpgP7230006.jpgP7230007.jpgP7230008.jpgP7230009.jpgP7230010.jpgP7230011.jpgP8090001.jpg


                          After paint and completed.

                          PB230002.jpgDSCN0189.jpgDSCN0191.jpgPA290002.jpg
                          PA290004.jpgPA290006.jpgPA290017.jpgPA290018.jpg

                          Comment

                          • Joe R.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • July 31, 1976
                            • 4547

                            #14
                            Re: painting prep c2

                            Richard,

                            Thanks for the pictures of what can happen with the media strippers. That has happened many times with everything from pecan shells to glass beads!
                            I have always used some type of liquid stripper with several applications and washing always after each session. Never letting the stripper sit longer than the prescribed time on any fiberglass surface. Water does neutralize the action of the liquid stripper.
                            The above Corvette looks great. Hope the time, money and effort involved has paid you back in satisfaction. Sometimes that's the only way to come out ahead on these old rags!

                            JR

                            Comment

                            • Richard M.
                              Super Moderator
                              • August 31, 1988
                              • 11306

                              #15
                              Re: painting prep c2

                              Hi JR,

                              Yup, it was certainly a project filled with surprises. The day I took a ride to the blaster's facility, I walked in the booth with him and saw the rough texture of what was left, I asked him......"Where's the water based soda system?" He said he didn't like that and he uses another media to keep the dust down. It was too late to call the owner and tell him to halt his guy from doing any further damage. It was 95% done when I got there. I was so disappointed and knew I was in for a real tough task of making the body smooth again. Lesson learned, but it all worked out in the end thanks to the Duratec product. It just took several layers to build up the surfaces to a uniform smoothness, but with a enormous amount of time block sanding. This of course was long after extensive bodywork to repair damages attained in the cars tough life many years prior. The car had 3 re-paints and shoddy metal plate repairs from the past. I certainly had much ahead of me when that tired old battle scarred body came back to the shop.

                              When I decided to have the decklid and trunk backsides soda blasted, I took them to a shop 10 minutes from my home. He uses the water method exclusively. Those pieces came out perfect.......smooth as a baby's bottom.

                              That entire '59 restoration start to finish is here on my website.....


                              Rich

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              Searching...Please wait.
                              An unexpected error was returned: 'Your submission could not be processed because you have logged in since the previous page was loaded.

                              Please push the back button and reload the previous window.'
                              An unexpected error was returned: 'Your submission could not be processed because the token has expired.

                              Please push the back button and reload the previous window.'
                              An internal error has occurred and the module cannot be displayed.
                              There are no results that meet this criteria.
                              Search Result for "|||"