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  • Roger D.
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    • June 3, 2014
    • 180

    69 trim rings

    I assume that these NOS trim rings that are posted on the forum can be used on my 69. I think they have the correct lip, but are they acceptable by NCRS standards. Looks like the box has part # 3923626.Thank You Roger
  • Alan S.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 31, 1989
    • 3416

    #2
    Re: 69 trim rings

    Hi Roger,
    I'm not sure what rings you're looking at.
    Here're two pictures that show a 'production line' ring.
    Regards,
    Alan

    Here are some things to look for:
    Configuration of clip…. no 'prongs'.
    Clip installed between 'layers' of the band.
    Spot weld on each side of clip.
    Flat band…. not shaped like an 'L' laying on it's back.
    Smooth, continuous, crimp of ring's outer circumference to band.
    Attached Files
    71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
    Mason Dixon Chapter
    Chapter Top Flight October 2011

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    • Ralph S.
      Expired
      • February 1, 1985
      • 935

      #3
      Re: 69 trim rings

      He's talking about the one on the Corvette Forum.

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      • Gary H.
        Expired
        • June 8, 2008
        • 308

        #4
        Re: 69 trim rings

        Roger,

        I dont think that you really need to spend the money to get a set of NOS trim rings. After they are removed from the boxes and installed on the car, they are no longer NOS and no longer have a NOS value.

        If you are patient, over the course of a few weeks you can buy singles on fleabay and put together a set at a fraction of the cost of NOS ones. They will judge the same as long as they havent been overpolished and dont show any major defects.

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        • Ralph S.
          Expired
          • February 1, 1985
          • 935

          #5
          Re: 69 trim rings

          The one for sale on the CF is a later GM replacement with the clips in the wrong location.

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • February 1, 1988
            • 43221

            #6
            Re: 69 trim rings

            Originally posted by Roger Dinunzio (60097)
            I assume that these NOS trim rings that are posted on the forum can be used on my 69. I think they have the correct lip, but are they acceptable by NCRS standards. Looks like the box has part # 3923626.Thank You Roger

            Roger------


            The GM #3923626 was the trim ring used for all 1968-82 Corvettes with standard wheels. However, this part changed in minor ways over the years of its manufacture and availability. So, a trim ring that might be exactly correct for a certain year Corvette might not be exactly correct for another year. I've lost track of the nuances. By the way, this part is no longer available from GM so I expect that before long, even the "incorrect" examples will become dear.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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            • Alan S.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • July 31, 1989
              • 3416

              #7
              Re: 69 trim rings

              Hi,
              I knew where the ring Roger is asking about was listed.
              I wasn't sure if I could mention the site here; that's why I didn't mention it.
              The ring being sold is a Service Replacement that has the configuration issues (clip position, clip design, clip attachment means, band configuration), and date issue, these rings typically have.
              The 'showy' side may be fine, but a knowledgable judge will know where to look to quickly determine this ring's pedigree.
              Regards,
              Alan
              Last edited by Alan S.; November 9, 2014, 12:24 PM.
              71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
              Mason Dixon Chapter
              Chapter Top Flight October 2011

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              • Roger D.
                Expired
                • June 3, 2014
                • 180

                #8
                Re: 69 trim rings

                OOps didn't know about not mentioning the other post site. Sorry. Thank you every one for your comments and that is not a bad idea to look for them in singles as long as I know what the heck I am looking at. Thank You Roger

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                • Patrick B.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • August 31, 1985
                  • 1995

                  #9
                  Re: 69 trim rings

                  Surely there is no prohibition against mentioning the names of other internet chat rooms for Corvette discussions. That would seem a bit Stalinist. Can the moderator clarify this?

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                  • Alan S.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • July 31, 1989
                    • 3416

                    #10
                    Re: 69 trim rings

                    Hi Patrick,
                    What I stated was really my own take; not something I thought was the policy here.
                    I've mentioned the CF in the past with no ramifications.
                    Since this was about an item for sale I didn't want anyone to think I was directing someone to that Parts Ad at CF.
                    Regards,
                    Alan
                    71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
                    Mason Dixon Chapter
                    Chapter Top Flight October 2011

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                    • Dale C.
                      Expired
                      • November 1, 1999
                      • 844

                      #11
                      Re: 69 trim rings

                      Maybe someone can remember, there was a Restorer issue about trim rings some time ago - but then Roger would need to get it somewhere.Dale

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                      • Alan S.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • July 31, 1989
                        • 3416

                        #12
                        Re: 69 trim rings

                        Hi,
                        The trim ring article was titled "Inside Rally Wheel Trim Rings", it was submitted by Rick Miller.
                        It appeared in THE CORVETTE RESTORER Vol.34, Number 1, Summer 2007.
                        I believe the production line rings were flash chromed which this article doesn't mention. This finish causes another hurtle in restoring production line rings in that the intense polishing often used/needed to restore rings removes the chrome finish and the restored ring ends up with the yellowish hue indicative of polished stainless steel unless the ring is re-plated.
                        Regards,
                        Alan
                        71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
                        Mason Dixon Chapter
                        Chapter Top Flight October 2011

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                        • Mark E.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • April 1, 1993
                          • 4542

                          #13
                          Re: 69 trim rings

                          There's a set of "OEM Factory" rings on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-FACTORY-...2c350c&vxp=mtr

                          They have no visible spot welds next to the clips, an "L" shaped band, and a wavy crimp along the circumference of the band.

                          Does this mean they are not OEM? Maybe manufactured more recently by GM as a service replacement?

                          Or not?
                          Mark Edmondson
                          Dallas, Texas
                          Texas Chapter

                          1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                          1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                          • Mark E.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • April 1, 1993
                            • 4542

                            #14
                            Re: 69 trim rings

                            See my more recent post #6 I'd like feedback about. (Submitted as a "reply with quote" so it was inserted in the middle of the thread among the older posts.)
                            Mark Edmondson
                            Dallas, Texas
                            Texas Chapter

                            1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                            1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                            • Alan S.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • July 31, 1989
                              • 3416

                              #15
                              Re: 69 trim rings

                              Hi Mark,
                              Often the 'wavy' crimp is an indication of a ring that has had the crimp 'opened' enough to 'spin' the ring so one of the clips is at the opening for the valve stem.
                              The clips have no 'spot welds' since they're the later clips with the 'tabs'/'ears'.
                              They could well have started life as service replacement caps.
                              $200 for 4 of these rings isn't a bad price if they're in excellent condition and a person understands what they're buying.
                              Regards,
                              Alan
                              71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
                              Mason Dixon Chapter
                              Chapter Top Flight October 2011

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