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  • Georges C.
    Frequent User
    • June 17, 2013
    • 72

    Difference in Auto/4Spd 1978 tranmission tunnel?

    Can anyone tell me if the transmission tunnel on a 1978 automatic is different than a 4 speed car? The replacement boot for a 4 speed does not appear to fit properly over the transmission tunnel 'dent' for the shifter of an original auto trans. Any pictures of a 4 speed tunnel and boot would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
  • Alan S.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 31, 1989
    • 3415

    #2
    Re: Difference in Auto/4Spd 1978 tranmission tunnel?

    Hi George,
    Here are a picture from below and above.
    I believe the 4-speed boot is the same for 68-82 that were available with 4-speed transmissions.
    Hope these are a help.
    Regards,
    Alan
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    71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
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    • Georges C.
      Frequent User
      • June 17, 2013
      • 72

      #3
      Re: Difference in Auto/4Spd 1978 tranmission tunnel?

      your tunnel looks flat. the 78 auto trans tunnel has a 1" deep 4"x5" 'dent'. attempting to replace auto with 4 speed and the boot looks like yours but doesn't fit very well over the 'dent'... thanks for the pic

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      • Alan S.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • July 31, 1989
        • 3415

        #4
        Re: Difference in Auto/4Spd 1978 tranmission tunnel?

        Hi George,
        I added another picture to the first post with a view from below.
        Regards,
        Alan
        71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
        Mason Dixon Chapter
        Chapter Top Flight October 2011

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        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • January 31, 1988
          • 43198

          #5
          Re: Difference in Auto/4Spd 1978 tranmission tunnel?

          Originally posted by georges cottave (58560)
          your tunnel looks flat. the 78 auto trans tunnel has a 1" deep 4"x5" 'dent'. attempting to replace auto with 4 speed and the boot looks like yours but doesn't fit very well over the 'dent'... thanks for the pic

          George-----


          The underbody panel for 1978 which includes the tunnel was different for automatic versus manual transmission.
          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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          • Tom R.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • June 30, 1993
            • 4091

            #6
            Re: Difference in Auto/4Spd 1978 tranmission tunnel?

            Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
            George-----


            The underbody panel for 1978 which includes the tunnel was different for automatic versus manual transmission.
            I always thought they were the same...not that I had any rational basis for that view...just assumed incorrectly.

            Now, what is different between the two tunnels?
            Tom Russo

            78 SA NCRS 5 Star Bowtie
            78 Pace Car L82 M21
            00 MY/TR/Conv

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • January 31, 1988
              • 43198

              #7
              Re: Difference in Auto/4Spd 1978 tranmission tunnel?

              Originally posted by Tom Russo (22903)
              I always thought they were the same...not that I had any rational basis for that view...just assumed incorrectly.

              Now, what is different between the two tunnels?
              Tom------

              The 1978 PRODUCTION underbody panel for automatic trans applications was GM #468135. For 4 speed applications it was GM #468136. The latter was never available in SERVICE while the 468135 SERVICED (with other GM-specified mods) both auto and 4 speed applications. The 468135 was discontinued in February, 1985 and replaced by GM #14038269 which was the PRODUCTION and SERVICE panel for 1982 Corvettes.

              1979-82 used panels unique to each year. However, the same pattern was followed. Namely, there were different panels for auto and 4 speed for each year (except 82, of course, which was auto only) but only the auto panel was available in SERVICE. The 1982 panel, GM #14038269, ultimately became the SERVICE panel for all 1978-82 Corvettes and was finally discontinued without supercession in November, 1988.

              What was the difference between the auto and 4 speed panels? I don't know, but I expect that George has identified at least one of the differences.
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Georges C.
                Frequent User
                • June 17, 2013
                • 72

                #8
                Re: Difference in Auto/4Spd 1978 tranmission tunnel?

                Thanks to all for the comments/pics. Guess will have to do some boot modification/fabrication on this swap.

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                • Tom R.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • June 30, 1993
                  • 4091

                  #9
                  Re: Difference in Auto/4Spd 1978 tranmission tunnel?

                  Originally posted by georges cottave (58560)
                  Thanks to all for the comments/pics. Guess will have to do some boot modification/fabrication on this swap.
                  George

                  I actually have a 78 auto and a 78 four-speed sitting in my garage...but I am not sure what I would be looking for and I couldn't tell from the photos. The four-speed car has the console removed so I can access it from the top. Point me in a direction and I'll see if I can come up with something instructive.
                  Tom Russo

                  78 SA NCRS 5 Star Bowtie
                  78 Pace Car L82 M21
                  00 MY/TR/Conv

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                  • Georges C.
                    Frequent User
                    • June 17, 2013
                    • 72

                    #10
                    Re: Difference in Auto/4Spd 1978 tranmission tunnel?

                    Tom,

                    Friend has original 78 pace 4 speed car that was totaled from behind while his wife was driving. ( thank God she was ok). He purchased a 78 pace body that has auto tunnel. They are different but can not tell difference for making a cut in the tunnel and placement of a boot. If you have pics of both it would be helpful.. The wreck occurred about 10 years ago, and as a restorer he has done other's cars, but has a break from mine as I have had to order another block - SEE MY HARD BLOK POST for the gory details!!

                    Thanks, Georges

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