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  • Nicholas L.
    Very Frequent User
    • October 31, 1982
    • 340

    1960 Speedometer

    My speedometer reads about 10 MPH lower than I am actually going. When I am going 60 MPH the speedometer shows 50 MPH.
    Any suggestions?
  • Leif A.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • August 31, 1997
    • 3611

    #2
    Re: 1960 Sreedometer

    Nicolas,

    How long has it been doing this? We need to know what transmission and rear end gear ratio you have to further assist. Also, what size tires.

    Leif
    Leif
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    • Nicholas L.
      Very Frequent User
      • October 31, 1982
      • 340

      #3
      Re: 1960 Sreedometer

      The transmission is the original Borg Warner T10. Rear end gear is 3.70. This problem has been going on for about two years.

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      • Edward M.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • October 31, 1985
        • 1916

        #4
        Re: 1960 Sreedometer

        Did anything charge / happen to the car two years ago. Did you change transmission, read end gear, speedometer head, tires, anything? We need more info.

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        • Nicholas L.
          Very Frequent User
          • October 31, 1982
          • 340

          #5
          Re: 1960 Sreedometer

          I did buy radial tires. The metric equivalent to 6.70 X 15.

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          • Edward M.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • October 31, 1985
            • 1916

            #6
            Re: 1960 Sreedometer

            What size tires are on the car now? What size tires did you take off of the car when you replaced them? Is this about the time the speedo error started?

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            • Nicholas L.
              Very Frequent User
              • October 31, 1982
              • 340

              #7
              Re: 1960 Sreedometer

              I took off 6.70X15 bias ply and replaced with I believe 205X15 radial. About the time the problem occurred. Did I answer my question. Is it due to the tires?

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              • Robert K.
                Very Frequent User
                • July 31, 1984
                • 213

                #8
                Re: 1960 Sreedometer

                I doubt it is all tires. A 6.70x15 tire has a diameter about 27.5. In order to slow your speedometer to 50 mph when doing 60 mph, you would have had to increase the tire size to 33"+. That is a big change, even for Jeeps.

                When did the car get the 3.70? Any chance you have a 3.08 gear? Going from a 3.70 gear to a 3.08 gear will cause your speedo to only measure 50 mph when you are going 60.

                How many RPMs are you turning at 60? It should be something near 2800 with a 3.70. If it is 2300 then you have a 3.08 gear in the rear and a 3.70 gear in the trans which would account for the reduction in mph.

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                • Edward M.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • October 31, 1985
                  • 1916

                  #9
                  Re: 1960 Sreedometer

                  Robert has hit the nail on the head. This really sounds like a rear gear change. The only other possibility that I can think of is a speedometer gear change in the transmission. Did any of those two things occur?

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                  • Nicholas L.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • October 31, 1982
                    • 340

                    #10
                    Re: 1960 Sreedometer

                    The rear axel code is for 3.70. At 60 MPH the rpm is about 3000. Don't know if any changes were made to transmission or rear gear.

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                    • Robert K.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • July 31, 1984
                      • 213

                      #11
                      Re: 1960 Sreedometer

                      It sounds like a 3.70. Therefore, your speedometer must be having issues.

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                      • Edward M.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • October 31, 1985
                        • 1916

                        #12
                        Re: 1960 Sreedometer

                        Here is a chart that might help... This chart is based on 60 mph speed.

                        Rear Axle
                        Gear Ratio
                        Tire
                        Diameter
                        24" 26" 28" 30" 32" 34" 36" 38" 40" 42" 44"
                        2.18 1831 1690 1570 1465 1373 1293 1221 1157 1099 1046 999
                        2.50 2100 1938 1800 1680 1575 1482 1400 1326 1290 1200 1145
                        2.74 2301 2124 1973 1841 1726 1625 1534 1545 1381 1315 1255
                        3.08 2587 2388 2218 2070 1940 1826 1725 1634 1552 1478 1411
                        3.23 2713 2504 2326 2170 2035 1915 1809 1714 1628 1550 1480
                        3.50 2940 2714 2520 2352 2205 2075 1960 1857 1764 1680 1604
                        3.73 3133 2892 2686 2507 2349 2212 2089 1979 1880 1790 1709
                        3.90 3276 3024 2808 2621 2457 2312 2184 2069 1966 1872 1787
                        4.10 3444 3179 2952 2755 2583 2431 2296 2175 2066 1968 1879
                        4.56 3830 3536 3283 3064 2873 2704 2554 2419 2298 2189 2089
                        4.88 4099 3784 2513 3279 3074 2894 2733 2589 2460 2236 2139

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                        • Edward M.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • October 31, 1985
                          • 1916

                          #13
                          Re: 1960 Speedometer

                          I would take a look at the ends of the speedometer cable that is inside the housing, and also the speedometer gear in the transmission. I had a 74 Vette a while back that had an erratic speedometer. The input end of the speedometer gear in the transmission was worn to the point where it was slipping at higher speeds. New speedometer gear, problem solved.

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                          • Nicholas L.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • October 31, 1982
                            • 340

                            #14
                            Re: 1960 Speedometer

                            Thanks. Will check that.

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