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  • Harry L.
    Infrequent User
    • March 12, 2012
    • 12

    58 corvette horn relay

    The TIMJG states that for 1958 the horn relay is a 913 ending number but on the description of the cadmium mounting flange it said that contains five mounting holes, i have made a search threw internet sites sites and have not find one original 913 with five mounting holes, all the ones that i have find are three mounting holes, the 781 that is for 59- up have the five mounting holes, i saw a car in a regional with a five hole 913 but after inspect it was a 919 converted to 913 to comply with the TIMJG. All your knowledge will be appreciated..
  • Pat H.
    Very Frequent User
    • December 1, 1996
    • 419

    #2
    Re: 58 corvette horn relay

    It seems that these 913 are hard to find. One of our members had the same issue with only the 3 holes in the mounting bracket. It was bought on ebay. Did the judges catch that?

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    • Harry L.
      Infrequent User
      • March 12, 2012
      • 12

      #3
      Re: 58 corvette horn relay

      Originally posted by Pat Heimrath (28537)
      It seems that these 913 are hard to find. One of our members had the same issue with only the 3 holes in the mounting bracket. It was bought on ebay. Did the judges catch that?
      Searching on the forums i find that on 2004 this issue was consulted with Tim Mickey and the answer on that time was that the earlies 58 until vin 2000 use the three holes 913 , then began the production of the five holes mounting on the 913 so later will be use for the 781. But the TIMJG omit the three hole use on earlies 58 ,

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      • Paul M.
        Very Frequent User
        • November 1, 1987
        • 142

        #4
        Re: 58 corvette horn relay

        I agree with Tim. I did have a 58 Vin # 253 and it had a 5 hole. Five hole 913's are out there, just hard to find.

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        • Dan H.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • July 31, 1977
          • 1369

          #5
          Re: 58 corvette horn relay

          FWIW I found my old extra parts box and in it is a 913 with three holes, good condition. I had 58 Vin 297 long ago, must have been a spare or something. PM me with email and I'll try to send a picture.
          Dan
          1964 Red FI Coupe, DUNTOV '09
          Drove the 64 over 5000 miles to three Regionals and the San Jose National, one dust storm and 40 lbs of bugs!

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          • Harry L.
            Infrequent User
            • March 12, 2012
            • 12

            #6
            Re: 58 corvette horn relay

            Originally posted by Paul Mazut (12070)
            I agree with Tim. I did have a 58 Vin # 253 and it had a 5 hole. Five hole 913's are out there, just hard to find.
            It seems that the use of three holes were ramdonly cause i have check a survivor vin1168 and has the three hole 913 and the vin 1883 which have a five hole , so is my opinion that the TIMJG should be review cause this prove that production line workers use whatever was on hand at the assembly line and NCRS should not penalize a correct car with a three holes mounting relay. Who should take the initiative for making the correction???

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            • Harry L.
              Infrequent User
              • March 12, 2012
              • 12

              #7
              Re: 58 corvette horn relay

              Originally posted by Dan Holstein (1440)
              FWIW I found my old extra parts box and in it is a 913 with three holes, good condition. I had 58 Vin 297 long ago, must have been a spare or something. PM me with email and I'll try to send a picture.
              Dan
              Thanks for your offer, i have open the thread to get attention on what is the production lines normally does on the installation of certains components, but i know that the five holes 913 exits, prove of that is my photo attachement of the twos that i have on my stock for nearly 4 decades. But to ask a guy with an original car with a three holes relay to change it to 5 holes that are nearly impossible to find ,cause the TIMJG is wrong , is not fair..
              Attached Files

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              • Pat H.
                Very Frequent User
                • December 1, 1996
                • 419

                #8
                Re: 58 corvette horn relay

                I think if Tim Mickey has seen survivors with a 3 hole mounting them it should go into the next TIMJG or at least advise his judges that this is the case and attach a note in the sheets used on the field. There is alway new information surfacing and the goal is to get it into the TIMJG in a timely manner. We judge to the standard in the TIMJG and if their is a known error, note it on the sheet, but don't penalize the owner if he restored his car to the standard.

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                • Kevin M.
                  Expired
                  • September 19, 2013
                  • 72

                  #9
                  Re: 58 corvette horn relay



                  Hi Harry

                  Here's a picture of my original 58 horn relay.
                  my vin is mid 7000s

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                  • Pat H.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • December 1, 1996
                    • 419

                    #10
                    Re: 58 corvette horn relay

                    That what I would expect to see on a 58. As previously mentioned some early cars had only 3 holes, but I did notice the mounting flange was also smaller

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                    • Harry L.
                      Infrequent User
                      • March 12, 2012
                      • 12

                      #11
                      Re: 58 corvette horn relay

                      Originally posted by Pat Heimrath (28537)
                      That what I would expect to see on a 58. As previously mentioned some early cars had only 3 holes, but I did notice the mounting flange was also smaller
                      I was thinking that the distances between holes on the three versus five holes were difference but since i have both i place the three in top of the five and there is no difference so you can change one with other using the same originals holes , since both have the same part number from Delco and as a matter of fact if you get an original closed string box you will not know if is three or five holes until you open the box that support the statement that both were original equipment for 58 corvettes.

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