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  • Walter F.
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    • October 22, 2006
    • 373

    Changing or not changing brake fluid

    I have and 84 Corvette which I have owned for 8 years. The car has 150,000 miles but has had many replacement parts by myself and previous owners. I only put about 1,000 miles a year on the car . It is garaged and well serviced. However lately i have been hearing I should change the brake fluid every 3 years. That would mean every 3,000 miles in my case. I have never changed the fluid in this car. I have been told all different stories. Some from mechanics that say dont change it unless it is milky gray to changing it will destroy the seals and other parts by adding new fluid to and old system that has never been changed. can anyone give me some guide lines?
  • Domenic T.
    Expired
    • January 29, 2010
    • 2452

    #2
    Re: Changing or not changing brake fluid

    Walter,
    I've not seen anything on changing brake fluid but think it's not a bad idea as it absorbs water and the conditions as to where you drive. Rain, snow, and other conditions would matter.
    I see rust in brake cylinders, calipers, and the MC. I try to bleed the brakes and get the dirty fluid out when I change the shoes or pads. The fluid turns amber as it absorbs moisture and the moisture seems to re-group at the bottom of the system and rust the calipers or cylinders.

    Dom

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    • Terry M.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • September 30, 1980
      • 15599

      #3
      Re: Changing or not changing brake fluid

      I change brake fluid every 2 years in ALL of my driver cars except the 1970. It has DOT5 int he brake system and I flush that every 20 years or so. As Dom says, it is easy to do when replacing the brake shoes/pads.

      I am told some of the high end European cars recommend brake fluid flush every two years in their owner's manuals, but I have not verified that myself.
      Terry

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • February 1, 1988
        • 43219

        #4
        Re: Changing or not changing brake fluid

        Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
        I change brake fluid every 2 years in ALL of my driver cars except the 1970. It has DOT5 int he brake system and I flush that every 20 years or so. As Dom says, it is easy to do when replacing the brake shoes/pads.

        I am told some of the high end European cars recommend brake fluid flush every two years in their owner's manuals, but I have not verified that myself.

        Terry------


        As long ago as 1980 Honda specified a brake fluid change every 30,000 miles.
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Duke W.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • January 1, 1993
          • 15667

          #5
          Re: Changing or not changing brake fluid

          The German OEMs recommend changing brake fluid every year or two years.

          To my knowledge GM has never recommended brake/clutch fluid changes, but having owned cars for up to 50 years I learned the hard way that changing fluid periodically will save you from having to rebuild hydraulic components due to internal corrosion from absorbed moisture in conventional polyglycol brake fluid.

          Duke

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          • Terry M.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • September 30, 1980
            • 15599

            #6
            Re: Changing or not changing brake fluid

            Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
            Terry------


            As long ago as 1980 Honda specified a brake fluid change every 30,000 miles.
            Well so much for my "high end" idea. Even if it is Honda recommending it, I still think it is a good idea.
            Terry

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            • Patrick N.
              Very Frequent User
              • March 10, 2008
              • 954

              #7
              Re: Changing or not changing brake fluid

              Originally posted by Walter Francaviglia (46368)
              I have and 84 Corvette which I have owned for 8 years. The car has 150,000 miles but has had many replacement parts by myself and previous owners. I only put about 1,000 miles a year on the car . It is garaged and well serviced. However lately i have been hearing I should change the brake fluid every 3 years. That would mean every 3,000 miles in my case. I have never changed the fluid in this car. I have been told all different stories. Some from mechanics that say dont change it unless it is milky gray to changing it will destroy the seals and other parts by adding new fluid to and old system that has never been changed. can anyone give me some guide lines?
              I have changed my fluid on my 88 this past spring. my 88 sits for a couple months between drives, and the fluid hadn't been changed in a long time. so far no leaks but i don't how how different 88 with ABS is from 84.

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              • Mike E.
                Very Frequent User
                • June 24, 2012
                • 920

                #8
                Re: Changing or not changing brake fluid

                Don't forget if you have a manual transmission in C4-C7 it will have a hydraulic clutch. In just a couple years the fluid will get nasty black color. It should probably be changed at the same time.

                Mike

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                • Terry M.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • September 30, 1980
                  • 15599

                  #9
                  Re: Changing or not changing brake fluid

                  Originally posted by Mike Eby (55078)
                  Don't forget if you have a manual transmission in C4-C7 it will have a hydraulic clutch. In just a couple years the fluid will get nasty black color. It should probably be changed at the same time.

                  Mike
                  Mike,
                  Some folks are way ahead of this curve.

                  C6 Corvette General Discussion - Take Care of Your Clutch--Preventing or Curing Pedal Issues - gBbsy0LjUvE Click here for true wide-screen and high-definition versions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBbsy0LjUvE) [Note: For HD, depending on your network connection speed, you may need to press the pause button to let...


                  Those who have been on a recent road tour with me have seen me change the clutch fluid at some of the overnight stops. I change the fluid in the clutch reservoir every couple of weeks to every couple of months depending on the amount of driving.
                  Terry

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                  • Pat H.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • December 1, 1996
                    • 419

                    #10
                    Re: Changing or not changing brake fluid

                    After having multiple issues with my C-3 callipers leaking a mechanic advise me to just bleed you brakes every spring when you bring the car out from storage. I've been doing that even since the early 90's and haven't had any issues so far. Usually on the first bleed at each calliper/wheel cylinder, there is this murky fluid that come out and then it clear up after the second or third bleed. The master seems to stay clean so far with on sediment.

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                    • Robert B.
                      Frequent User
                      • May 20, 2013
                      • 39

                      #11
                      Re: Changing or not changing brake fluid

                      Brake fluid absorbs moisture. That moisture both ruins brake components and significantly lowers the boiling point of the fluid, resulting in increased fade. Change it ASAP.

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                      • Patrick H.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • December 1, 1989
                        • 11643

                        #12
                        Re: Changing or not changing brake fluid

                        Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                        Mike,
                        Some folks are way ahead of this curve.

                        C6 Corvette General Discussion - Take Care of Your Clutch--Preventing or Curing Pedal Issues - gBbsy0LjUvE Click here for true wide-screen and high-definition versions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBbsy0LjUvE) [Note: For HD, depending on your network connection speed, you may need to press the pause button to let...


                        Those who have been on a recent road tour with me have seen me change the clutch fluid at some of the overnight stops. I change the fluid in the clutch reservoir every couple of weeks to every couple of months depending on the amount of driving.
                        You use GM or Prestone or which brand?
                        Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
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                        • Terry M.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • September 30, 1980
                          • 15599

                          #13
                          Re: Changing or not changing brake fluid

                          Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
                          You use GM or Prestone or which brand?
                          I am using GM fluid because it comes in a metal can, so it will store better as I carry a can with me on the road. Prestone is highly regarded by the serious track folks on Corvette Forum, and I think that is a pretty good recommendation. If I wasn't carrying it with me, I would use Prestone at 1/2 to 1/3 the GM price.
                          Terry

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                          • Patrick H.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • December 1, 1989
                            • 11643

                            #14
                            Re: Changing or not changing brake fluid

                            Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                            I am using GM fluid because it comes in a metal can, so it will store better as I carry a can with me on the road. Prestone is highly regarded by the serious track folks on Corvette Forum, and I think that is a pretty good recommendation. If I wasn't carrying it with me, I would use Prestone at 1/2 to 1/3 the GM price.
                            Thanks. The Prestone is what I seemed to find recommended as well.
                            Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                            71 "deer modified" coupe
                            72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                            2008 coupe
                            Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                            • Walter F.
                              Expired
                              • October 22, 2006
                              • 373

                              #15
                              Re: Changing or not changing brake fluid

                              I was told by one person that some dealerships do not flush the brake system but just suck out the fluid from the master cylinder and add new fluid.Would that suppose method do any good with the old fluid still in the calipers? That is how many mechanics do transmission services. The drain the pan add a new filter and the rest of the fluid stays in the converter.

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