Anyone ever seen an NOS example of GM # 3794106 early '63 tire lock anti-rattle pad

[Gary B.]

Does anyone have an example of an early '63 anti-rattle pad for the spare tire lock? GM # 3794106 Or ever seen an NOS example? I know it was GM discontinued from service in early 1964, so it's a long shot.

Gary

[Mike M.]

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i have an early 63 lock with its original pad. the pad is black dense foam/rubber, compressible, about 1/8" thick. i'll try to post a pic later. mike

[Norm B.]

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Here is mine as it came off the car a few years back. Definitely not NOS but maybe it helps. The car is late October '62.

[Timothy B.]

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Norm,

You lock does not have the hole in it does it.

[Norm B.]

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Hi Tim. If I remember correctly your car is within a week or two of mine. Here's a couple of pictures of the other side of the lock.

[Mike M.]

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i have an early 63 lock that lacks the hole as it should. there is glue evidence that air originally had the foam/rubber pad. my late 63 lock that has its pad doesn't have the hole. if you send me your email address, i can send u a picture of the original pad on the late 63 lock. i'm too dumb(old) to post pics here. mike

[Gary B.]

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Guys,

Unfortunately, examples of original pads on '63 locks in all likelihood will not answer my question. I have one or two such early '63 locks in my collection, as well as photos of 2 or 3 others. Typically the pads on such locks are in very poor shape. I really need to see an NOS example. The feature I'm interested in is the width of the pad which determines the L-R overhang. Pads sold by LIC have a substantial overhang, and I am trying to determine is that amount of overhang is correct. Of course, any overhung portions would tend to be worn or broken off first, so the lack of overhang on a 50-year used pad doesn't necessarily provide the answer to the question I'm asking.

Gary

[Michael G.]

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Gary, here are a couple of photos of what a pad should look like. This is a pad created to match the characteristics of several well-worn examples of 63 pads. Its about as close as you are going to get to NOS. It didn't get a deduct at Nationals.
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[Gary B.]

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Gary, here are a couple of photos of what a pad should look like. This is a pad created to match the characteristics of several well-worn examples of 63 pads. Its about as close as you are going to get to NOS. It didn't get a deduct at Nationals.
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Michael,

I agree that your example is probably close to correct, but I'm interested in knowing what the original side-to-side dimension was and the bevel cut one connecting side. The examplein your photos overhangs the opposite side slightly, but the LIC repro overhangs quite a bit more and I believe that that aspect of the LIC repro may be correct. Also, I would argue that the exact extent of the bevel on the side of the bolt head capture hole is unknown. I think only the GM engineering drawing or an NOS example will answer these questions definitively. I think only so much can be learned from original, well-worn, under-car rubber items. It's a question of close to correct vs. spot-on correct in my mind, which is why I keep searching.

Gary

[Joe R.]

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Gary,

Probably an NOS example of the anti rattle foam would not help you at all. If an NOS example was sealed in a Mayo Jar and left on Funk & Wagnalls front porch (thanks Johnny for the line) it would be deterioated as sponge rubber dries and flakes off after 50 plus years.
Also, a correct NOS rubber attached to one of the above locks should not get full points as they are all missing one important fact.
Where is Bob J. or Mike H. when you need them.

JR

[Donald O.]

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Where is Bob J. or Mike H. when you need them.

JR[/QUOTE]
Ousted from the fun tent?

[Joe L.]

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Michael,

I agree that your example is probably close to correct, but I'm interested in knowing what the original side-to-side dimension was and the bevel cut one connecting side. The examplein your photos overhangs the opposite side slightly, but the LIC repro overhangs quite a bit more and I believe that that aspect of the LIC repro may be correct. Also, I would argue that the exact extent of the bevel on the side of the bolt head capture hole is unknown. I think only the GM engineering drawing or an NOS example will answer these questions definitively. I think only so much can be learned from original, well-worn, under-car rubber items. It's a question of close to correct vs. spot-on correct in my mind, which is why I keep searching.

Gary

Gary------


The GM #3794106 was discontinued in January, 1964 and replaced by the GM #3841701 rubber boot. I would say the chances of finding an NOS GM #3794106 would be just about the same as the people in hell getting ice water.

[Gary B.]

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Gary------


The GM #3794106 was discontinued in January, 1964 and replaced by the GM #3841701 rubber boot. I would say the chances of finding an NOS GM #3794106 would be just about the same as the people in hell getting ice water.

No doubt that's true. But if I didn't ask, the odds would be zero instead of close to zero. And I bet you have some stories about impossible to find NOS parts that turn out not to be impossible. One can always hope.

Gary

[Michael G.]

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Here are some pics Mike McCagh sent me a while back. Probably the ones he wanted to post, but had technical (old) difficulties. I hope they help.

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