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  • Roger D.
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    • June 3, 2014
    • 180

    Hood latches

    I am doing the engine compartment on my 69 restore. Do the latches or any part of them get black phosphate?? Also is the hood support that holds the hood up get black phosphate. Thank you
    Roger
  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • January 31, 1988
    • 43191

    #2
    Re: Hood latches

    Originally posted by Roger Dinunzio (60097)
    I am doing the engine compartment on my 69 restore. Do the latches or any part of them get black phosphate?? Also is the hood support that holds the hood up get black phosphate. Thank you
    Roger
    Roger------


    The upper hood latches are entirely black/gray phosphate-finished. The lower hood latch assemblies are mostly black/gray phosphate. The exceptions are the spring seats and upper retainers. These parts were zinc or cadmium finished.

    The hood support is entirely zinc plated.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Roger D.
      Expired
      • June 3, 2014
      • 180

      #3
      Re: Hood latches

      Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
      Roger------The upper hood latches are entirely black/gray phosphate-finished. The lower hood latch assemblies are mostly black/gray phosphate. The exceptions are the spring seats and upper retainers. These parts were zinc or cadmium finished.The hood support is entirely zinc plated.
      Thanks Joe for the info. I assume that the large adjustable screw pin on th e lower latch is not blackened. I s that correct. I always seem to see a lot of them loaded with grease.

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • January 31, 1988
        • 43191

        #4
        Re: Hood latches

        Originally posted by Roger Dinunzio (60097)
        Thanks Joe for the info. I assume that the large adjustable screw pin on th e lower latch is not blackened. I s that correct. I always seem to see a lot of them loaded with grease.

        Roger------


        The lock bolt is black phosphate, too. However, the phosphate rather quickly wears off the contact surface (the "bulb" on the upper end) so it appears as natural steel. So, the way these appear on virtually all cars is not the way they appeared when the cars left St. Louis.
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Roger D.
          Expired
          • June 3, 2014
          • 180

          #5
          Re: Hood latches

          Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
          Roger------The lock bolt is black phosphate, too. However, the phosphate rather quickly wears off the contact surface (the "bulb" on the upper end) so it appears as natural steel. So, the way these appear on virtually all cars is not the way they appeared when the cars left St. Louis.
          Thanks Joe, did all the blackening on one side and cleaned everything. Left the 2 zinc pieces. Looks real nice the contrast of color.

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          • Alan S.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • July 31, 1989
            • 3414

            #6
            Re: Hood latches

            Hi Joe,
            What finish was on the nuts and washers used in mounting the male hood latches?
            Regards,
            Alan
            71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
            Mason Dixon Chapter
            Chapter Top Flight October 2011

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            • Roger D.
              Expired
              • June 3, 2014
              • 180

              #7
              Re: Hood latches

              Originally posted by Alan Struck (15579)
              Hi Joe,What finish was on the nuts and washers used in mounting the male hood latches?Regards,Alan
              Hey Alan you beat me to the punch on the bolts. Will be curious to see what Joe says. Thanks for asking.Roger

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              • Terry M.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • September 30, 1980
                • 15569

                #8
                Re: Hood latches

                Originally posted by Alan Struck (15579)
                Hi Joe,
                What finish was on the nuts and washers used in mounting the male hood latches?
                Regards,
                Alan
                I am not Joe, but see the nuts and washers and bolts all black on original cars.
                Terry

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                • Alan S.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • July 31, 1989
                  • 3414

                  #9
                  Re: Hood latches

                  Hi,
                  Terry, black as in black oxide, or black as in manganese phosphate?
                  Also, Joe, the 4th edition 70-72 TIM&JG indicates the "probe" (can we say that here?) was 'natural' not phosphate plated as you posted. Is that correct?
                  Regards,
                  Alan
                  71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
                  Mason Dixon Chapter
                  Chapter Top Flight October 2011

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • January 31, 1988
                    • 43191

                    #10
                    Re: Hood latches

                    Originally posted by Alan Struck (15579)
                    Hi,
                    Terry, black as in black oxide, or black as in manganese phosphate?
                    Also, Joe, the 4th edition 70-72 TIM&JG indicates the "probe" (can we say that here?) was 'natural' not phosphate plated as you posted. Is that correct?
                    Regards,
                    Alan

                    Alan------

                    Black oxide is a finish very rarely used on any Corvette component. The lower latch retaining nuts and washers were phosphate finished. The coloration was more-or-less a medium gray.

                    The lock bolts ("probes"?) were phosphate-finished. This includes BOTH the 68-E69 type and the L69-76 type. As I mentioned, the finish on the "bulbous" end (68-E69) or "pyramid" end (L69-76) is rather quickly worn off resulting in the end appearing natural. The shank of the bolt is difficult to see within the springs. So, this might result in some folks considering the bolts to be natural. But, they were not originally natural.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Alan S.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • July 31, 1989
                      • 3414

                      #11
                      Re: Hood latches

                      Hi Joe,
                      Thanks for the clarification.
                      Regards,
                      Alan
                      71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
                      Mason Dixon Chapter
                      Chapter Top Flight October 2011

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                      • Terry M.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • September 30, 1980
                        • 15569

                        #12
                        Re: Hood latches

                        Originally posted by Alan Struck (15579)
                        Hi,
                        Terry, black as in black oxide, or black as in manganese phosphate?
                        Also, Joe, the 4th edition 70-72 TIM&JG indicates the "probe" (can we say that here?) was 'natural' not phosphate plated as you posted. Is that correct?
                        Regards,
                        Alan
                        I won't disagree with Joe, but all I look at is does the finish of all those parts "flow" or do some parts stand-out -- as in silver against black. If I were "restoring" those fasteners, since they are in a non-critical application, I would heat them on the barby till they glowed and then throw them in a can of oil I reserved from the last oil change on one of my drivers. You can decide if that looks like any plating process if you want, but it works for me, but then delicate finesse has never been one of my strong points.

                        Don't forget the little splash of body color paint on the hood latch studs.
                        Terry

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                        • Joe L.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • January 31, 1988
                          • 43191

                          #13
                          Re: Hood latches

                          For the non-believers, here are some photos. These are all NOS pieces and most of them are very old NOS.



                          DSCN3005.jpgDSCN3006.jpgDSCN3010.jpg


                          Above are shown the spring seats and spring upper retainers. Note that they are zinc plated.
                          Attached Files
                          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                          • Joe L.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • January 31, 1988
                            • 43191

                            #14
                            Re: Hood latches

                            More-----



                            DSCN3008.jpgDSCN3009.jpgDSCN3007.jpg


                            These are the lock bolts, both the 68-E69 (GM #3915814) and L69-76 (GM #3966625). Note that they are FULLY phosphate-finished.
                            Attached Files
                            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                            • Joe L.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • January 31, 1988
                              • 43191

                              #15
                              Re: Hood latches

                              More-------



                              DSCN3012.jpgDSCN3013.jpgDSCN3014.jpgDSCN3015.jpg


                              Springs and 2 NOS examples of the driver side lower latch, one with return spring and one without. Note that all are phosphate-finished.
                              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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