Judging opinion - Original vs Repro?
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Re: Judging opinion - Original vs Repro?
First of all I believe you will find that the ones on the left are not really worn originals placed on the Corvette at St. Louis but were sold in the 70's as replacements by GM across the counter. The color is no where like originals placed on the Corvette in St. Louis.
I would score all of those at "0" for originality! None are originals!
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Re: Judging opinion - Original vs Repro?
First of all I believe you will find that the ones on the left are not really worn originals placed on the Corvette at St. Louis but were sold in the 70's as replacements by GM across the counter. The color is no where like originals placed on the Corvette in St. Louis.
I would score all of those at "0" for originality! None are originals!
JR
The manufacturing mark of the left flag says "General Detroit".
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Re: Judging opinion - Original vs Repro?
Hi Mike,
The original emblem from my 71 displays the darker red, (bloodier?), that the emblem on the left in your picture displays.
It, too, has the 'General Detroit' Logo.
In addition, the original emblem is noticeably thinner and more tapered than the very 'pretty' reproduction I have, especially in the area where the staffs cross.
Also notice the difference in the size of the contact area were the fold in the flag touches the staff.
Regards,
AlanLast edited by Alan S.; August 2, 2014, 09:20 AM.71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
Mason Dixon Chapter
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Hey Mike,
Even if JR is correct (hopefully he isn't judging your car), using the most current judging standards you "might" expect to lose 20% for configuration and 20% for finish on the originality column and then could earn condition points too. If it scored "0" for originality, then you lose all condition as well.
FWIWRob
'66 327/300 Regional Top Flt
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The front emblem has "General Detroit" on it which seems to align with what Alan has.- Top
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Re: Judging opinion - Original vs Repro?
Hey Mike,
Even if JR is correct (hopefully he isn't judging your car), using the most current judging standards you "might" expect to lose 20% for configuration and 20% for finish on the originality column and then could earn condition points too. If it scored "0" for originality, then you lose all condition as well.
FWIWLast edited by Mike F.; August 2, 2014, 06:32 PM.- Top
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I doubt if the exterior judges will see a difference on the car. I can barely detect any difference (other than the red) in your side by side picture.
Originalilty of the judged parts are based on these critiria:
Configuration = 20% (of availible points for the item)
Date = 20%
Completeness = 20%
Installation = 20%
Finish = 20%
Deducting just because it is not an original or a repop is a "No No"- Top
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Mike, At one time there was some one that use to re-finish the painted areas on the flags, It was on the discussion board It was being talked about, Maybe someone will see the post that remembers who it is. If you take a look at Alan's pic closely you'll also note that the original emblems had a casting the was not smooth as the reproductions and this goes for most of the 68 through 72 emblems and that goes for the the words C O R V E T T E in the rear. And as far as the Red goes who really knows the correct color red, If your car was parked in a garage all its life and never saw sunlight then may you might be one of a few. I think the GM replacement ones were a darker red but the originals were more of a true red ??New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.- Top
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We had this discussion on the board before and I personally have incorporated it into the judging revision for a possible future new 70 - 72 JM. The biggest difference is the shade of red. Like Alan mentioned, the originals are of a darker or blood color red as opposed to the repros which which are bright red. My opinion besides any other deviations that may exist is there would be minor point deduction on oirigiality becasuse of it's finish. I would rather lose condition points than originalty points."SOLID LIFTERS MATTER"- Top
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The red color on the two right side flags in Mikes original posting looks good for a '65 and '67 Corvette. A bit bright on the top one, but not bad. It seems the repro producers gave more attention to the demands of the mid year cars.........- Top
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No surprise there Gene. That is why for years we had reproduction chrome oil fill caps with both the S and SMC logo. C3s only have the S.Terry- Top
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