Parkerizing/phosphate

[Roger D.]

Where do you find the chemicals to do this procedure. Some say zinc phosphate and others black maganeese phosphate or parkerizing. Tried palmetto enterprise who suggest zinc phosphate for restoration jobs. What is the right color and vendor for ncrs judging.

[John D.]

Re: Parkerizing/phosphate

Roger, Try Eastwood for the various chemicals needed. John

[Roger D.]

Re: Parkerizing/phosphate

Where do you find the chemicals to do this procedure. Some say zinc phosphate and others black maganeese phosphate or parkerizing. Tried palmetto enterprise who suggest zinc phosphate for restoration jobs. What is the right color and vendor for ncrs judging.

I see where Eastwood has a fast etch product that creates a zinc phosphate finish. The zinc bolts appeared to be a charcoal color gray after they were dipped. What is the proper color when these bolts are done. I don't know what the judges are looking for here. I need to better understand what it is they want to be able to get the right product.R

[Donald H.]

Re: Parkerizing/phosphate

I got my chemicals from a gun supply place. Can't remember which one. I recall they sold chemical for both zinc phosphating (lighter gray) and manganese phosphating ( dark gray to black).

Google parkerizing kits kits and you'll find a few sellers.

Don

[Roger D.]

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I got my chemicals from a gun supply place. Can't remember which one. I recall they sold chemical for both zinc phosphating (lighter gray) and manganese phosphating ( dark gray to black). Google parkerizing kits kits and you'll find a few sellers.Don

Thanks for the comments. Went to Scott Owens who is Palmetto Enterprises for black phosphate. Located in South Carolinahttps://www.forums.ncrs.org/images/smilies/smile.png

[Floyd B.]

Re: Parkerizing/phosphate

Has anyone tried this?

http://www.eastwood.com/metal-blackening-system-set.html

[Bill C.]

Re: Parkerizing/phosphate

send a PM to Grant Wong (ncrs member)
email address: grantwong@telus.net


He has the parkerizing solution. I purchased two bottles from him for both of my restorations. I used it for the upper hood latch (m/f) and for the splash shields.
100% perfect!

Bil

[Mike E.]

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Has anyone tried this?

http://www.eastwood.com/metal-blacke...ystem-set.html

---- Floyd

Yes, Here is an example of a couple fasteners that were restored with their blackening system and Eastwood's plating kit. The plating kit has you use battery which is a total joke, had to use a power supply to get any type of results. For plating it was good experience getting your feet wet in electroplating. Actually I'm going to upgrade to one of the Caswell Kits for Cad Plating.

Note: This is not at all the same as black phosphate but the appearance is close. With the blackening system I applied BoeShield as soon as the part dried. The bolts will almost immediately start rusting if the BioShield is not applied. Black oxide is more or less a controlled rust that is black if the car is garage kept it should retain the black look for a while.






Mike

[Patrick H.]

Re: Parkerizing/phosphate

If you view this thread, and scroll down to the bottom of the page, you will see a "Similar Threads" box. Reading these will probably tell you more than you want to know about parkerizing.

Free tip - ignore Eastwood.

[Tom R.]

Re: Parkerizing/phosphate

I see where Eastwood has a fast etch product that creates a zinc phosphate finish. The zinc bolts appeared to be a charcoal color gray after they were dipped. What is the proper color when these bolts are done. I don't know what the judges are looking for here. I need to better understand what it is they want to be able to get the right product.R

RogerI tried the Eastwood fast etch system and the part developed surface rust almost immediately. I was not pleased with the results...stick with the Parkerizing process and I believe you'll appreciate the results. As Patrick suggests, search through the threads as we have had some great discussions about the topic and you'll understand strengths and weaknesses before hand.

[Roger D.]

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RogerI tried the Eastwood fast etch system and the part developed surface rust almost immediately. I was not pleased with the results...stick with the Parkerizing process and I believe you'll appreciate the results. As Patrick suggests, search through the threads as we have had some great discussions about the topic and you'll understand strengths and weaknesses before hand.

Went with Scott Owens of Palmetto Enterprises. I will post some pics over the weekend. Thank you so much because I came close to going with Eastwood.r