If I was to paint my 69 with BC/CC........

[John P.]

I was wanting to know "IF" I was to paint my car with a base coat/clear coat in the original color, and I was going for "Top Flight" what kind of point deduction would I suffer?
I have not done this yet and The car will not be painted for at least another year.....

So please flame away!!

johnny

[Patrick T.]

Re: If I was to paint my 69 with BC/CC........

BC/CC= Total Deduct for Top Flight.

[Craig S.]

Re: If I was to paint my 69 with BC/CC........

Johnny - it sounds like your deal went through...congratulations! Now all the parts procurement starts!....Craig

[John P.]

Re: If I was to paint my 69 with BC/CC........

So I take it that means disqualification for top flight zip zilch nothing!
not just "points taken"

I want to paint it correctly but I would like the paint to last a while

[John P.]

Now all the parts procurement starts!....

Oh man where do I start right???????? =0)

[Reba Whittington]

Re: If I were to paint my 69 with BC/CC........

No, it does not mean you can't have the car judged--only that you will lose all the points for paint, which are 85. A Top Flight would still be possible if the car is strong in all other areas. The only thing that prevents a car from being judged is lack of VIN plate.

[Vinnie P.]

Re: If I were to paint my 69 with BC/CC........ *TL*

I'll have to disagree with the full deduct for paint. The Judging Reference Manual states;

"Likewise, in judging the originality of an area, such as body paint, a successful judging does not mean the existing paint is that which was originally applied at the factory, but does imply it appears as though it could be."

It has to appear as the originally applied lacquer. I know of a number of cars that have achieved the Duntov Award with base coat/clear coat or single stage urethane. There are painters out there that know how to make the paint appear as lacquer, know where to dull the correct areas etc.

[Jack H.]

How soon we forget....

It wasn't that long ago when exterior paint was a single scoring line item. As Vinnie mentions, the operative is 'appearance' vs. factory original and there was not a 2-step (BC/CC) process back then. But, a truly skilled painter CAN use alternative methods to make the final job 'appear' factory original....

Back to my point. Time marched on and club rules evolved to split exterior paint into TWO line items (color and paint). Now, about 1/3rd of total exterior paint points go to simply achieving the correct color/hue. BUT, somehow we presist in spreading the word that a contemporary 2-step color/clear paint job results in a mandatory full deduction on paint.... This hasn't been true for MANY years; you still get credit for the core color!

On the use of 2-step paint, it seems just about every paint man now tries to tell folks that's the ONLY way to get the job done. I'll agree that's the EASIEST way for a painter to achieve a deep, rich, lustre that looks great and is more resistant to abrasion. BUT, most of the cars restored for top honors see very little actual road use and are constantly being detailed/waxed for show. Sooooo, what's the big problema for a paint guy to deliver a single step spray? I suspect 'some' of the painter's concern lies with the fact a final clear coat does wonders to 'mask' minor imperfections....

[John P.]

Re: How soon we forget....

See I want to paint my car once and be done with it...
I personally have never owned a car with lacquer paint so I have no idea what time and effort go into making it shine, the polishing the cutting of it after painting.
So that is one reason why I was looking towards the BC/CC.

The car WILL be painted the original color, (cortez silver) but I will get hit because it is not lacquer what else will points be deducted for?? and what kind of points am I looking at losing?
Also the only way my car will ever get on a trailer will be if it breaks down!
I have no intentions of ever pulling this car anywhere I will drive it to the NRCS shows I go to.

[Jeff Bratton]

Re: How soon we forget....

clear coat can not mask inpefections, only make them more noticeable, if your going to drive your car every day go with a urathane bb - cc I like the Lacquer original look - it easy for most people to tell the differance.