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  • Brad S.
    Expired
    • July 31, 2005
    • 227

    69 underbody bracket finish

    How were the black brackets ( pinion support, strut rod bracket, spring bracket,seat brackets)finished from the factory? I dont think they were painted since I had the pinion support Soaking in carb cleaner for 4-5 days and it didn't phase it. Is it some kind of coating ( E- coat)?
  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43202

    #2
    Re: 69 underbody bracket finish

    Brad-----

    All of the brackets you mentioned were originally finished in semi-gloss black paint with the POSSIBLE exception of the tapping plates for the rearmost seat bolts. Those may have been natural or semi-gloss black. "High tech" coatings (e.g. powder coating) were mostly not even invented yet in 1969 and, those that were, were not commonly used in the automotive industry.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Brad S.
      Expired
      • July 31, 2005
      • 227

      #3
      Re: 69 underbody bracket finish

      Joe, Was there a coating of some sort some sort that might have been used ? I haven't seen any paints that 4-5 days in cold dip carb cleaner wouldn't at lest soften and it didn't even touch this finish. Thanks Brad

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • February 1, 1988
        • 43202

        #4
        Re: 69 underbody bracket finish

        Brad-----

        As far as I know, it was just paint. That was the finish primarily used in those days and all of the blueprints that I've seen for parts like these specified "paint".

        I do agree that this paint can be very difficult to remove. I usually end up having to use some abrasive means to get it off. However, I attribute this to the fact that the paint has been on these parts for a long time and, over time, something seems to occur which "hardens" it.
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • John H.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • December 1, 1997
          • 16513

          #5
          Re: 69 underbody bracket finish

          Those parts were received raw, then hot-degreased, iron phosphated, and either dip-primed or flow-coated with black primer, baked, and delivered to the line. Baked primer sticks pretty well to phosphated steel.

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          • Brad S.
            Expired
            • July 31, 2005
            • 227

            #6
            Re: 69 underbody bracket finish

            John, will zinc phosphate work for iron phosphate? How hot were they baked? Or should I just paint them semi gloss black but I dont think it will stick like the original process. Thanks Brad

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • February 1, 1988
              • 43202

              #7
              Re: 69 underbody bracket finish

              John-----

              Thanks for that info. I wasn't sure if they were baked, or not. However, that would definitely explain why the paint adhered so well.
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • John H.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • December 1, 1997
                • 16513

                #8
                Re: 69 underbody bracket finish

                Brad -

                I wouldn't bother with phosphating - just clean them up, prime, and shoot with semi-gloss black; with the care we give these cars, the finish will last just fine.

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                • Brad S.
                  Expired
                  • July 31, 2005
                  • 227

                  #9
                  Thanks John and Joe *NM*

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