hi all - per the golden rules, i started off by doing a search on the topic of drive shaft removal, but got this in return got this as the result:
"Search Results
Messages Posted
Within the Last 5 Year(s) 0 of 2,485 Messages Displayed
(Reversed Chronological Listing)
Messages Containing All of the Keywords:
drive, shaft, removal"
that is, zero - kind of surprised me - am i doing something wrong in the search (selected posts in last 5 years - all posts containing all the words "drive," "shaft," and "removal"??
as to exactly what i am trying to do:
Background
- i have a 70LT1 that has the motor and tranny out
- the drive shaft is connected to the diff and the entire rear end is in tact
- i plan on doing a frame off and am content to start here as the car will not roll backwards
- i am looking to (i) get the car to roll in either direction (right now it rolls forward) and (ii) get everything off that i can save what would be needed to allow the car (and eventually just the frame (chassis)) to roll
- finally I am an absolute VIRGIN with respect to car restoration and/or repairs - this is my first "project" (ever) - so please be patient if it appears that i don't have even the most rudimentary knowledge of how a car is basically put together - I don't - but want to learn and am willing to work hard.
Steps
- given that the transmission is out, does this mean that the drive shaft and differntial can move freely (in other words, it is the tranny and nothing else (other than the brake system or something being broken)) that governs if the rear wheels can move?
- if yes, i am assuming that the ebrake is not fully disengaging - i say this because the car rolls forward and so it is not the brakes being frozen in the engaged position - and i guess i answered my first question that yes the drive shaft and diff are spinning freely since it rolls forward
- have searched the archives of another forum, I found this:
"Yes, start at the rear. Unless you have a magic wrench you will have to rotate the shaft to get all the bolts loose. This means getting the rear wheels off of the ground and putting the car in neutral. Make sure you chock the front wheels so the car don't roll. After you get all the bolts removed from the rear u-joint then do the front. Again, just slip the trans into park if you need to lock the shaft to loosen the bolts. The front yoke will slide in towards the trans to allow the shaft to clear and be dropped and then just pull it forward. Use a rubber mallet to knock the yoke in towards the trans, but clean the yoke where it goes through the tailshaft seal so it doesn't tear the seal and start a leak later on."
- but is that applicable to my case...that is, where the tranny is already out?
- clearly the drive shaft can come out...but if i understand correctly, the bolts to remove the shaft are only accessible by removing "things" that are rear of it
- i am looking mostly at pages K167, K168 and K169 of the 1970 AIM
- when the poster says first remove the "rear u-joint" - is that item 1 or item 4 on page K168?
- when he says the "then do the front" - is that item 8 on the same page?
- and stepping back a huge step, high level, what is the order of what i am trying to do?
* am i ultimately looking to just take off the brake system and leave the half shaft/diff assembly in tact?
* i am guessing the wheel/tire cannot be on the frame without the half shafts to attach to (AMATUER WARNING)
* again, i am happy to take as much off as i can now as a start to the project - but have to get at whatever is locking the wheels up when trying to roll backward
So just looking for a HIGH LEVEL view of what needs to be done - will follow on with specific questions around how does this or that nut come off or other detailed questions - but not right now - also am already prepared for general restoration items like tons of pictures, baggies, tags, labels, etc.
Many, many thanks - Stephen
"Search Results
Messages Posted
Within the Last 5 Year(s) 0 of 2,485 Messages Displayed
(Reversed Chronological Listing)
Messages Containing All of the Keywords:
drive, shaft, removal"
that is, zero - kind of surprised me - am i doing something wrong in the search (selected posts in last 5 years - all posts containing all the words "drive," "shaft," and "removal"??
as to exactly what i am trying to do:
Background
- i have a 70LT1 that has the motor and tranny out
- the drive shaft is connected to the diff and the entire rear end is in tact
- i plan on doing a frame off and am content to start here as the car will not roll backwards
- i am looking to (i) get the car to roll in either direction (right now it rolls forward) and (ii) get everything off that i can save what would be needed to allow the car (and eventually just the frame (chassis)) to roll
- finally I am an absolute VIRGIN with respect to car restoration and/or repairs - this is my first "project" (ever) - so please be patient if it appears that i don't have even the most rudimentary knowledge of how a car is basically put together - I don't - but want to learn and am willing to work hard.
Steps
- given that the transmission is out, does this mean that the drive shaft and differntial can move freely (in other words, it is the tranny and nothing else (other than the brake system or something being broken)) that governs if the rear wheels can move?
- if yes, i am assuming that the ebrake is not fully disengaging - i say this because the car rolls forward and so it is not the brakes being frozen in the engaged position - and i guess i answered my first question that yes the drive shaft and diff are spinning freely since it rolls forward
- have searched the archives of another forum, I found this:
"Yes, start at the rear. Unless you have a magic wrench you will have to rotate the shaft to get all the bolts loose. This means getting the rear wheels off of the ground and putting the car in neutral. Make sure you chock the front wheels so the car don't roll. After you get all the bolts removed from the rear u-joint then do the front. Again, just slip the trans into park if you need to lock the shaft to loosen the bolts. The front yoke will slide in towards the trans to allow the shaft to clear and be dropped and then just pull it forward. Use a rubber mallet to knock the yoke in towards the trans, but clean the yoke where it goes through the tailshaft seal so it doesn't tear the seal and start a leak later on."
- but is that applicable to my case...that is, where the tranny is already out?
- clearly the drive shaft can come out...but if i understand correctly, the bolts to remove the shaft are only accessible by removing "things" that are rear of it
- i am looking mostly at pages K167, K168 and K169 of the 1970 AIM
- when the poster says first remove the "rear u-joint" - is that item 1 or item 4 on page K168?
- when he says the "then do the front" - is that item 8 on the same page?
- and stepping back a huge step, high level, what is the order of what i am trying to do?
* am i ultimately looking to just take off the brake system and leave the half shaft/diff assembly in tact?
* i am guessing the wheel/tire cannot be on the frame without the half shafts to attach to (AMATUER WARNING)
* again, i am happy to take as much off as i can now as a start to the project - but have to get at whatever is locking the wheels up when trying to roll backward
So just looking for a HIGH LEVEL view of what needs to be done - will follow on with specific questions around how does this or that nut come off or other detailed questions - but not right now - also am already prepared for general restoration items like tons of pictures, baggies, tags, labels, etc.
Many, many thanks - Stephen
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