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  • Tom R.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • June 30, 1993
    • 4096

    71 Stamp Pad...the real deal?

    That's the ebay marketing pitch...anyway curious how others view this stamp pad.




    Tom Russo

    78 SA NCRS 5 Star Bowtie
    78 Pace Car L82 M21
    00 MY/TR/Conv
  • Kent K.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • December 1, 1982
    • 1139

    #2
    Photo too small - need higher resolution *NM*

    Kent
    1967 327/300 Convert. w/ Air - Duntoved in 1994
    1969 427/435 Coupe - 1 previous owner
    2006 Coupe - Driver & Fun Car !!!
    NCM Founder - Member #718

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    • Dave S.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • August 31, 1992
      • 2924

      #3
      Re: 71 Stamp Pad...the real deal?

      Tom,
      Looked at it in the Ebay listing. I'd hate to be the seller who is guaranteeing that this is the original engine. Can't see the broach marks due to poor quality photo but the letters/numbers are a bit crooked for me. Especially the last number in the assembly date and last letter in the VIN derative.

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      • William C.
        NCRS Past President
        • May 31, 1975
        • 6037

        #4
        Re: 71 Stamp Pad...the real deal?

        The picture simply is not good enough (resolution) to tell anything.
        Bill Clupper #618

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        • Rick A.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • July 31, 2002
          • 2147

          #5
          Re: 71 Stamp Pad...the real deal?

          resized the pix using IrfanView and the stamp pad is a joke! it looks like someone hand-scribed the numbers or something - if I knew how to post the resized pix ya'll would see what I am stating
          Rick Aleshire
          2016 Ebony C7R Z06 "ROSA"

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          • Tom R.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • June 30, 1993
            • 4096

            #6
            Re: more res

            Ok...here's one sized at 33 KB...the other was 9 KB. For me it's a crap shoot with resizing photos for web consumption.




            Tom Russo

            78 SA NCRS 5 Star Bowtie
            78 Pace Car L82 M21
            00 MY/TR/Conv

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            • Kent K.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • December 1, 1982
              • 1139

              #7
              Re: more res

              Tom,
              Thanks for resizing the photo. I am no expert on '71 but, the problem I see is the "C11..." prior to the S in the SN stamping. I thought it should start with the S.... Maybe Terry will chime in with his experience.
              Happy New Year, Kent
              Kent
              1967 327/300 Convert. w/ Air - Duntoved in 1994
              1969 427/435 Coupe - 1 previous owner
              2006 Coupe - Driver & Fun Car !!!
              NCM Founder - Member #718

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              • Terry M.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • September 30, 1980
                • 15588

                #8
                Re: more res

                The best help I can offer this week is that some 1971s start with 71S and some with C11S. I don't have any of my reference material with me. (Hint: It is not cold and snowing where I am. The temp is 22*C right now, and the AC has been on day & night. Life is a beach.) I know there was a change during production, and it is cited in the TIM&JG. Someone besides me will have to look it up.
                Terry

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                • Dave S.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • August 31, 1992
                  • 2924

                  #9
                  Re: more res

                  The C11S...... is correct for engines assembled after early September 1970. Earlier 1971 engines were stamped 71S1.......

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                  • Kent K.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • December 1, 1982
                    • 1139

                    #10
                    Re: more res

                    Terry,
                    Thanks to you & Dave Strickland for correcting me. Dave wrote "The C11S...... is correct for engines assembled after early September 1970. Earlier 1971 engines were stamped 71S1.......". Guess I should stay out of conversations regarding car years I know little abbout. One thing though, is that if you enlarge Tom Russo's second photo, one can barely see (or imagine) brooch marks. Sure would be nice to see Rick Aleshire's resized pix using IrfanView for what he described as "hand scribed" numbers. They look pretty good to my ol' tired eyes without a scope in the real world.
                    Happy New Year, Kent
                    Kent
                    1967 327/300 Convert. w/ Air - Duntoved in 1994
                    1969 427/435 Coupe - 1 previous owner
                    2006 Coupe - Driver & Fun Car !!!
                    NCM Founder - Member #718

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                    • Terry M.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • September 30, 1980
                      • 15588

                      #11
                      Re: more res

                      I didn't comment on the stamp because the photo, even enlarged, isn't adequate for me to make an assessment. It is not high enough resolution or magnification to tell much, and not all of the pad is unpainted. Even under the best of circumstances, photos are a poor substitute for actually seeing the unpainted pad "in the flesh."
                      Terry

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                      • Tom R.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • June 30, 1993
                        • 4096

                        #12
                        Re: more res

                        What caught my attention is the paint in the letters but that just suggests the pad was painted than wiped off. I tried to resize but as Terry points out...the resolution is not sufficent to permit a blow up.

                        So we have no issues of originality, configuration (of characters), completeness, date with finish not discernable due to photo resolution and probably a deduct for paint?
                        Tom Russo

                        78 SA NCRS 5 Star Bowtie
                        78 Pace Car L82 M21
                        00 MY/TR/Conv

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                        • Terry M.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • September 30, 1980
                          • 15588

                          #13
                          Re: more res

                          Tom, if you are going to look at it like an NCRS judge I would point out that the finish issue (pad surface) is a 100% all or nothing assesment. With no broach marks it is an automatic 38 point deduct in my way of looking at it. If I saw any broach marks on I might be sawyed, but for whatever reason I don't. This is an area where seeing it in the flesh might yield the car more points.
                          Terry

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