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  • Gregory M.
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    • May 31, 1984
    • 178

    Rally Wheel Date Code Question

    I am interested in acquiring a set of "correct" date coded AG rims for my early July 1968 Coupe. I currently have repop 15x7s on the car. The question is what would be considered "correct" for the date? Is it the same 6 month window as other components?

    As a reference, I checked my early January built 1969 Convertible, which has its original rims, and was surprised to find that the AZ rims were all dated Dec. 19, 1968. I was surprised they were a)that close to build date and b) all four the same date.

    So, all you guys (and gals) out there with original Rally Wheel cars...what are your date codes on all four rims in relation to your build dates? Thanks for the help.

    GM
  • Greg L.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • March 1, 2006
    • 2291

    #2
    Re: Rally Wheel Date Code Question

    Greg

    I think that the 6 month window is for anomalies and not typical production.

    All of my original dated parts on my Jan 31-69 car are from mid Dec to about the third week of Jan except for the brake warning switch which I think is around Oct of 68. The majority of my parts pre-date the body build date two to three weeks.

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    • Wayne P.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • August 31, 1975
      • 1025

      #3
      Re: Rally Wheel Date Code Question

      All the 7" rallys I've seen are dated 7/67.

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      • Gregory M.
        Expired
        • May 31, 1984
        • 178

        #4
        Re: Rally Wheel Date Code Question

        I had a lucid interval after posting last nite and dropped the spare tire carrier as I hoped at least one original rim might be in there. The rims in the spare carrier is dated Jan. 13, 1967 and is coded _W. I could not read the first digit of the stamped code. It is wearing what appears to be an original Goodyear redline tire.

        I assume that rims is not origianl to the car and off a 1967 car. I am surprised that the rims on my 1969 (and other post above as well)are within a few weeks of vehicle build date.

        I am following a set of three (3) AG rims on Ebay and 2 are May 1968, which I still think are good for my July built vehicle...anybody out there have an original 1968 car with rally rims?

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        • Jack H.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • April 1, 1990
          • 9906

          #5
          Yes...

          Unless otherwise stated in either the specific JG book for a given model year or in the Standard Deductions section of the NCRS Judging Reference Manual, the time interval considered 'correct' for judging purposes is 0-6 months prior to the car's final assy date.

          Bear in mind that rally wheels installed on the car will be shown with factory trim rings in place making it impossible for judges to verify the date codes on these wheels and only the spare tire wheel lacks a trim ring allowing judges easy visibility of the wheel's date code stamp...

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          • Frank Vincent

            #6
            Re: Rally Wheel Date Code Question

            My experience with AG wheels has led me to the following observations ...

            You'll find stampings on the interior curvature of the rim to inclue a KH logo and 15x7JJ. Directly under the 15x7JJ are a couple smaller numbers which signify the production date of that piece. My own wheels are stamped with the 15x7JJ and a "7" and "67" immediately under. (for July 1967)

            The exterior has a couple stampings, but the stamping by the air valve hole is most significant as this is the final assembly date of the wheel. As I understand it ...

            Before January 1, 1968: just AG was stamped by the air valve hole, no other numbers. You would probably find a K-1 on one of the spider arms toward the center of the wheel and maybe a GM on another. My wheels have these same stampings. (AG, K-1 and GM)

            After January 1, 1968, supposedly the date code was added to include K-1-8( month) (hole) (date) AG.

            I've yet to see any wheels that don't follow this observation, but there aren't a whole lot to look at anyhow. My brother-in-law got his Oct '67 built in 1968 as 2nd owner and the wheels were chrome rally wheels (The car originally came from Nickey as a L71).
            He immediately traded them in for TorqThrust which he still has on the car today. I often wonder if those chrome ralleys were the elusive "-C-" code for the 1968 Corvette Chrome Ralley only ... ???

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            • John C.
              Expired
              • January 1, 2005
              • 616

              #7
              Re: Rally Wheel Date Code Question

              Greg

              All 5 AG wheels on my 68 with a body build date of April 18 have a stamped date of Jan 31st.

              John

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              • Anthony S.
                Very Frequent User
                • April 3, 2008
                • 183

                #8
                Re: Rally Wheel Date Code Question

                Frank,

                Four of the rims from on my Jan 24 built '68 were produced in December of 1967, and are stamped with the final production date near the valve stem hole.

                Two are stamped K-1-7 AG 12-20 and 2 are stamped K-1-7 AG 12-21.

                Anthony

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                • Gregory M.
                  Expired
                  • May 31, 1984
                  • 178

                  #9
                  Re: Rally Wheel Date Code Question

                  Thanks to all for the response...I have drawn the following conclusions from the responses:

                  1) For judging purposes the only date code that matters is the spare;

                  2) The date should be within 6 months of vehicle build date;

                  3) AG near valve stem without a date stamping is pre January 1968...I was wondering about that as I found one...

                  Another question: I have compared the "argent" silver rally wheel paint offered by a major corvette supplier and it is obviously nowhere near the greenish hue of my original 1969 wheels. Does NCRS judging deduct for repainted rally wheels that don't appear original?

                  More importantly, has anyone sampled various argent paints? Who sells the best argent silver?

                  GM

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                  • Terry B.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • August 31, 1999
                    • 607

                    #10
                    Re: Rally Wheel Date Code Question

                    Greg,

                    I had this sanme question a few weeks back. I found a friend original spare, took it to a auto paint supplier to match the color. Painted all 5 rims. I will have the answer this Saturday when it's judged. Contact me Sunday for the answer.
                    Terry Buchanan

                    Webmaster / Secretary - Heart of Ohio Chapter www.ncrs.org/hoo

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                    • Dick W.
                      Former NCRS Director Region IV
                      • June 30, 1985
                      • 10483

                      #11
                      Re: Rally Wheel Date Code Question

                      Quanta used to sell the green tinted Argent Silver, but I understand that they do not anymore. Since you have an original wheel, take it to you local paint jobber and let him scan it in his computer. He should be able to match it for you
                      Dick Whittington

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                      • Gregory M.
                        Expired
                        • May 31, 1984
                        • 178

                        #12
                        Re: Rally Wheel Date Code Question

                        Dont they need a 4-5 inch square to get an accurate read? I wanted to do that with a body colored steel spare on a Ford a while back and was told not enoguh area on a rim to get an accurate reading.

                        GM

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