Eklers

[Terry Hitch]

Just received my first news letter and notice that Eklers is not a sponser. Why? I have always recieved superior customer service and good quality stuff from them. Terry

[Geoff C.]

Have you notified management? *NM*

[Dennis C.]

Not a sponser of what...??? *NM*

[Terry D.]

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Sponsor of what? I tjhink you might be in the monority here. Lots of problems in the past. Maybe they have fixed that.
Terry

[Chuck S.]

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NCRS is an organization of dues paying members, and does not rely on vendor sponsors for it's primary support like Corvette Forum. The cost of the NCRS website is borne entirely by the NCRS organization as far as I know.

Corporate and vendor sponsors often assist chapters with the costs of putting on NCRS meetings, but otherwise they are members and paid advertisers in the Driveline. For the most part, this allows NCRS to avoid conflicts of interest between the welfare of the membership and sponsor interests, AND THAT IS A GOOD THING

I can think of only a couple of instances where the interests of a sponsor/advertiser may have caused a slight temporary irritation inside the organization, and then it had to do with negative commentary on this board. And, of course, maybe the long-running discussion of why members can't place parts ads on the NCRS website.

[Tracy C.]

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Hi Terry,

I think your question should be directed toward someone at Ecklers. If they want to advertise in the Driveline, I'm sure someone would accept their membership payment and ad. While there have be some shady vendors exposed here on the TDB, I haven't seen or heard anything regarding Ecklers that would consider bad enough to be kicked out of the organization.

I've never bought from them as they have priced themselves out of my budget.

tc

[Mike M.]

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i had heard thru the grapevine that Ecklers bought the Classic Chevy Club and that Harbor Freight then bought the new combo. rumor or ? mike

[Jim D.]

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"NCRS is an organization of dues paying members, and does not rely on vendor sponsors for it's primary support like Corvette Forum. The cost of the NCRS website is borne entirely by the NCRS organization as far as I know."

Chuck, Gotta call B.S. on this one. Why does the NCRS continue to run ads in the Driveline from "Goat Hill" and "Chicago Corvette" when there are countless posts of them being complete rip-offs?

[Dick W.]

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I would suggest that you take the time to look at the last two Drivelines and see if you find ads from Goat Hill.

[Jim D.]

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Gee "Dick", I suggest that you look on page 43 of the latest issue. It may not be a full page ad, but they are still advertising, for free now.

[Chuck S.]

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Jim, none of the paragraph you quoted there is BS...it's all 100% true. I suspect the part of my post you're having trouble with is this:

"For the most part, this allows NCRS to avoid conflicts of interest between the welfare of the membership and sponsor interests, AND THAT IS A GOOD THING."

If you think this is BS, then you haven't seen how discussion boards that depend entirely on sponsor support protect their sponsor's reputations and business interests. That long thread discussing Goat Hill's behavior never would have happened on Corvette Forum. Until there was overwhelming evidence the complainer had a good case, the thread would have been locked early, and the poster kicked off if he continued to express his unhappiness. Ask Clem, he was thrown off for simply telling a poster where a generic equivalent part could be bought cheaper locally (free?).

I was stating the general principle behind NCRS not widely accepting vendor sponsorship. For any given case, e.g. Goat Hill and Chicago Corvette, I know no reason, nor can I offer excuses, for management continuing to accept advertising if there is legitimate complaint. I don't know if there are investigations of complaints underway in these cases, but if there isn't, there should be...neither of us would know about it until a decision is made and action is taken.

Someone owes us an explanation on those cases...either here where the discussion happened, or in the publications. Are investigations underway?...Have decisions been made that taking advertising money gives them the chance to improve?...No foul by the vendors?...What?!

[Terry D.]

Oh Boy, more China repo parts! *NM*

[Don Izzo]

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Mike, I recently discussed placing an order with Ecklers for my "classic Chevy," a 1956 Belair. I was told by the sales associate that Ecklers indeed did buy "Classic Chevy International" as well as another Classic chevy company which I cant recall. My interest lies in not wanting to do any further business with "Classic Chevy". I won't go into it here. Don't know about Harbor freight though.

Don

[Jim D.]

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Chuck
Thanks for the clearification. You are correct about the CF. I too was kicked off because I commented on the unsavory sales tactics of a supporting vendor. Thankfully,the NCRS is nothing like that, or I wouldn't have stayed a member for all these years. I just wish they would be more active in not allowing known vendors of questionable ethics, to continue advertising. It looks as if they/we are endorsing them.

[Tracy C.]

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Harbor Freight / Ecklers?

Me thinks you need to clean off the moon roof in your outhouse there fella. Your getting your catalogs mixed up. For the record, you will recognize the difference when you finish up your business. Ecklers catalog pages have a glossy, "John Wayne" (take schmit off no one) texture. Harbor Freight will be more likle conventional newsprint.

tc