Read this ad saying car wax is not worth the time to apply on the corvette forum. Does anybody out there hear of this product?
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Re: car wax
Of course, the company with the ad is trying to sell you their product in lieu of someone else's. Certainly not an unbiased opinion. No experience with the product though.
I would go to Consumer Reports or some other independent to see what they say about wax, which I use on all of my cars, btw.
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Never heard about that stuff. Are you just looking for a long lasting wax?
I dont know if you have heard of Zaino brothers, but if you are looking for good wax this is the way to go. I will tell you its a bit of work but well worth it.
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Re: car wax
Zaino...only way to polish....Comment
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I agree!
I started using Zaino a couple of years ago when I got my new Acura TL. It's all I use now and got my son hooked on it for his BMW. Great stuff and easy to use.Comment
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Zaino Sealant, long-lasting & a complete product
I've talked to others who have used 5 Star Shine. It's very expensive compared to any other sealant product on the market. If you look at their website, none of the customers' testamonies there indicate that the product has lasted 5 years (which is what they claim).
Any product that you use to protect your vehicle will require maintenance.
Zaino has a complete product line that allows you to do maintenance.
What others have said here is true.
One coat of Zaino will last 6 months on a daily driver and 1 year on a show car.
You can also layer Zaino for a deeper, wetter shine. You can't do that with 5 Star as it has an abrasive in it.Comment
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Zaino,...Not A Wax, Not A Polish
Zaino isn't a wax and, in spite of Zaino's terminology, it's not a polish either, because it doesn't have any abrasives. As Jack said above, it's a synthetic sealant...You have to clean the finish and remove any swirl marks or other surface imperfections before you apply Zaino. That may mean you have to polish BEFORE you Zaino.
The recommended procedure is: (1) Wash with Dawn to strip any existing wax, (2) Clay bar the finish, (3) Wash with Zaino's car wash, (4) Mix enough Z5 with ZFX accelerator to do one coat, about 2 onces for the first coat, (5) Apply sparingly with a microfiber towel, let it haze, and wipe it off with a clean microfiber towel (easy wiping), (6) Wipe the entire car down with Z6 Gloss Enhancer (Just a spritz for 2-4 square feet). You can apply the sealant to the entire car if you like before wiping off the haze...the wiping effort is the same.
If you desire you can immediately apply another coat of Z5; apply no more than two coats in 24 hours. The second coat will take only about one once; mix no more than you can apply at one time. The Z5 is said to fill some fine scratches, but I preferred the labor intensive method of polishing the car first with 3M Finesse-It II to insure there were no swirl marks, and skipped the clay bar.
Once you have a couple coats of Z5 applied, you can start applying coats of Z2 which is supposed to yield higher optical clarity and depth of shine (their words) but will not fill scratches.
For the first application, Zaino is about the same amount of work as Meguiars three step process, but once you get three or four coats on, the shine is easy to maintain. If my car is only dusty, I lightly dust it off with a California car duster, and wipe it down with Zaino's Z6 Gloss Enhancer...brilliant shine comes right back with no scratches. I try to put on another coat every six months or so. Some of those guys over on CF think if they put on 10-12 coats, it'll stop rock chips...yuk, yuk...Even Zaino only recommends about four coats.
People that sell the carnauba wax say it has a deeper, warmer shine that collector car guys love. I think that's marketing hype...in my opinion, the Zaino shine is at least as good as Meguiar's Yellow Wax, maybe better. The protection is said to last about twice as long as carnauba wax. It seems like Zaino would be perfect for collector cars...because it has no abrasives, you arent't constantly polishing away your paint.Comment
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OR, you can just......
use Maquire's NXT and get a really great shine! Whew, Chuck, just reading your description made me tired! I'm sure it works very well, BUT..
DonComment
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NXT is the way to go,even mrs clem noticed
how much brighter my precision red C-6 compared to other precision reds when we were at bowling greenComment
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Listen to Chuck
What Chuck has suggested is to start at the bottom and that is what a good detailer will do.
There is alot of work to it if you really want to do right, it takes many years of detail experience to really understand it. I spent time with two guys and the second one was so knowledgable and massively experienced it was like listening to ED Pink talk about motor building.
Wax whatever type or sealant is just the icing on the cake. Properly prepared paint will look better and it will last better, to say this wax or sealant is better it lasts longer, on what? a car with a ton of scratches or a perfeclty prepared surface. THe perfectly prepared surface will out last the same wax on another car every time. It is about preparing the surface. A really good detailer may even use different wax or sealants depending on paint of colour.
A friends son died and he wanted to get rid of his car. I spent six hours, it had not been cleaned properly with over 80k on it. Prewashed with dish soap to loosen up the dirt, rubbed down with clay and dish soap, it removes crap and it takes crap off that you might drag around, then over it with a wool pad on a rotary buffer and micro fine compound, at that point it glowed. Then a sealant and a Carnuba, they do look different and work different.
The wax part is fast, if i wanted it better it would have been gone over with a foam pad minimum. Just wanted to get it to a fresh surface before it was waxed and that was way better than what was there.
When the car was done he said it looked better than new. Never saw it new but saw a major difference. This was just a quick job to do it right would have been still more time but it was 3/4 of the way on track. He put the car at the end of the driveway and it got sold the same day. It wasn't cause it was waxed, it was prepared first it had the shine before it was waxed.
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NXT Is Not A Wax Either...
They call it a wax, but like Zaino, NXT is a synthetic polymer sealant. These manufacturers are playing fast and loose with the terminology. I suppose they were trying to use a product description the customer would recognize...call it a sealant, and they might sell two bottles.
Sorry for the long pedantic post...I hate giving people an incomplete answer that just leads to incomplete understanding and more questions. As Warren says, the majority of my post is about preparation...any product you put on your paint is not going to make it shine any better than a good polishing; waxes or sealants just preserve the shine by protecting the paint from the elements and UV.
I've always been a big fan of Meguiars. As to which is best, I haven't tried NXT...both Zaino and NXT have their staunch supporters over on CF. I don't participate in those "Less Filling/Tastes Great" wrangles. Select what works best for you. The thing I like about Zaino is they have a recommended process and a range of products (select what you need/want) to take you all the way from neglected to beautiful. Now, I have all these bottles of Megiars cleaner, glaze, and yellow wax left over...there's not anything I would want to use it on now; anything worth all that work is worth Zainoing.Comment
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NXT
no work with NXT,less than 30 minutes to do the whole corvette and that includes beer drinking time.Comment
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