63 -65 FI air cleaner

[Joe M.]

Does anyone have good photos they can post or email of the interior of the big can on the 63-5 FI air cleaner?

My air cleaner lacks the forward support for the screened cone. I seem to recall 2 styles of inner brackets but not sure if what I saw was modified rather than original. The interior of my AC does not appear to have have evidence of welds to hold the bracket in place.

Any suggestions for non stock filter setups using the original can?

Thanks,
Joe

[G B.]

Re: 63 -65 FI air cleaner

If you will send me photos of what you have, I will respond with similar poses showing a stock GM air cleaner. My e-mail address is jerrybramlett@comcast.net.

Yes, there is an aftermarket conical paper element that can be made to work.

Jerry

[John D.]

Re: 63 -65 FI air cleaner

Joe, The old steel repro lacks the part you are referring to. As Jerry stated there are several "paper" style elements that can be made to work quite well. Late 90's Ford Ranger or old 90's Ford products use a cone shaped element. If you would stand it up on end the point of it is shaped like a tennis ball. Go to NAPA and ask to see a 4616 element. Napa Gold-probably made by Wix. Or you can transpose the number and buy it from Ford. At the Marlborough regional I saw the following in use. The K&N equv. of the 4616 with a Napa 46033 to it. K&N has a flatter nose to it than the 4616. Recap: K&N and glue a 46033 to it and you are done. A cheap way out: 4616 and glue a short piece of plastic pipe to it to make up for the length problem. Maybe others have a better idea. OF course you first put your original cone screen on the shelf.If it were my FI car though I would use a high quality paper element and attach a small element to it-also paper to take up the slack of the 4616 being a couple of inches short. I also understand that there is a longer cone shaped element that fits better than the 4616. ??? John

[Alan Drake]

Re: 63 -65 FI air cleaner

At the Marborough show showed the person with the two element set a single cone solution which is will be using shortly.

Use the K&N RX 3990 filter.

Since the cone end also lets in a little air glue some 1/4" foam on the end to raise it above the metal support thus allowing a little more air in. The other end has a raised end which does not look like it will fit, since the over all lenght would be much too long, however that opening will fit inside the elbow with the lower end section snug against it.
Good Luck

[Joe M.]

Re: 63 -65 FI air cleaner

Thanks guys.
Jerry, I'll get my daughter to take a couple of digital photos. Also have a spare air filter adapter I'd like to get your opinion on as I'm not sure if it is bastardized or some early original deviation.

John, when were these filters first repro'd?
What are some of the other differences between an original and early repro and how were they intnded to work without an inner bracket?

I really appreciate the filter numbers, Thanks again!

Joe

[John D.]

Re: 63 -65 FI air cleaner

JOe, Over the years several guys have reproed the air cleaner assemblies for the midyears. Ask around as I typically avoid these type of subjects when we are on line for the world. I really like the latest info on the correct size one shot element. I figured it was out there as I saw some on ebay of various sizes. John

[John D.]

Re: 63 -65 FI air cleaner

Alan, That's really good info on the air cleaner element. K&N RX 3990. Do you have the paper filter element number for the same part? Thanks, John

[Joe M.]

Re: 63 -65 FI air cleaner

Air cleaner interior - probably can't see from the photo but I cannot feel any irregularity which would have indicated a weld existed

Air cleaner adapter - had two of the three 'metal hose' holes brazed up. Pieces are brazed big time, who ever put it together was real serious and neat. Used to put an small air/cleaner filter on the side of a mid year FI unit. original or bastardized?

Joe

[Alan Drake]

Re: 63 -65 FI air cleaner

No paper number, however if anyone has would also like to know.
I got number by going through the K&N cat, believe it was not listed for a car, but under a general description.

[Joe M.]

Re: 63 -65 FI air cleaner

John, Jerry

I assumed the attaching points for the cone support were located about 3" back into the AC. As I hooked up my S-tube I realized it attached to the AC with a band. There are holes in the forward rim of the AC that I figured were where the S-tube attached to the AC by self tapping screws. The holes look about the size of drilled out spot welds, obviously larger than needed for self tapping screws. Could this be where the internal cone support should be attached? I picked up this cleaner years ago in a bit of a rumpled condition. A photo of an isolated internal cone support bracket would be helpful so I could mock one up. Would in any case use a paper filter and keep the cone on the side.
Photos sent in earlier e-mail, and direct email to Jerry.

Thanks again,
joe
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