1114458 Starter Solenoid

[Timothy B.]

I have several NOS starter solenoids GM # 1114458. I would like to know if this is the correct replacement starter solenoid for GM starters and when this part number started. They all look the same to me so why the part # change? Thanks in advance, Tim Barbieri

[Joe L.]

Re: 1114458 Starter Solenoid

Tim-----

"NOS" GM #1114458 solenoids are not too hard to come by. GM will sell you all you want for $38.30 list.

This solenoid is the current GM SERVICE replacement for all 56-82 Corvette applications. It was first used in PRODUCTION for the 1976 model year. Shortly thereafter it replaced all earlier solenoids for 56+ Corvette applications (and, most other GM applications, too).

The GM #1114458 does have a configuration and appearance pretty much like earlier solenoids, although there have been some subtle, non-engineering changes to it over the many years of its manufacture. The differences between it an earlier solenoids are internal. Supposedly, the GM #1114458 solenoid is designed for "high heat" environments. However, its use will NOT cure the dreaded "hot restart" problem sometimes experienced on Corvettes. I can GUARANTEE you that.

[Timothy B.]

Re: 1114458 Starter Solenoid

Joe, Thanks for the response, the 458 solenoids I have are in the old red and white pull string box so I thought they might not be available anymore. Can you tell me the correct solenoid part # for my 67 starter. I am told 1114356 then I'm told 1114344 so I'm not sure.
Thanks as always, Tim Barbieri

[Joe L.]

Re: 1114458 Starter Solenoid

Tim-----

The GM #1114356 solenoid has been available since the days that pull string boxes were used. It's still available but it doesn't come in a pull string box anymore.

As far as I know, 1967 Corvettes used the GM #1114356 solenoid. I can't find any record of 1114344. However, it could have been a PRODUCTION-only part number and, as such, I can't rule out that it was not used for 1967 or other years.

[Gary J.]

Re: Joe Lucia ... starter Solenoid

What starter solenoid will cure the "HOT" start problem in a 1966 big block?

Gary Jaynes

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[Joe L.]

Re: Joe Lucia ... starter Solenoid

Gary------

As far as on-starter solenoids, there are NONE that I know of that will cure the problem. The only way that I've ever been able to cure the problem with a 100% success rate is to install a slave solenoid. This is a remote-mounted solenoid (like those used on a lot of earlier Fords) which is activated by the ignition switch and delivers full battery voltage to the "S" terminal on the on-starter solenoid regardless of heat conditions. It's a 100% cure. I've tried everything else and nothing made any more than a marginal improvement.

[Allan J. Wicklund]

Re: Joe Lucia ... starter Solenoid

Joe, I seem to remember a rebuilder here in Riverhead, Long Island who would install a Solonoid used on Diesel applications to eliminate this problem. I'll look him up and get back with an answer. Al W.

[Joe L.]

Re: Joe Lucia ... starter Solenoid

Allan-----

That would be excellent information. If he has a GM part number, that would be extremely helpful.

[Allan J. Wicklund]

Re: Joe Lucia ... starter Solenoid

OK! Here is the scoop. The small shop rebuilder claims he would put a heavy duty solonoid from an early 80's GM passenger car Diesel, (Remember the famous Oldsmobile gas engine based Diesel!) on to starters that suffered extreme heat. GM parts # unknown. 25 year old stuff Ya know! Al W.