Originating Dealer?

[Jerry Weidner]

How do you find the originating dealer?
1966 vin # 32xx.
Any help would be appriciated.

Jerry

[Rick A.]

Re: Originating Dealer?

if you have no documentation, or you can find the original owner - there is no way that I know of to find the originating dealer

[Philip C.]

Re: Originating Dealer? There may be

Jerry if you have a contact in the police dept. They can get the orig dealer from from NCIC thats located in Ohio. Phil 8063

[Patrick H.]

Re: Originating Dealer? There may be

Phil,

Not unless your car is currently the subject of an investigation. I've tried to get information this way, and it's just not possible for cops who want to stay in the good graces of their department.

Patrick

[Patrick T.]

Re: Originating Dealer?

If you are a law enforcement officer, in order to get information from the NICB, you need to submit a court case number, a docket number and why you need the information. Any law officer who submits a request under false pretenses will lose his job. Don't ask me how I know this. PT

[Bill E.]

Re: Originating Dealer?

I got the original selling dealer info for my '74 from the DMV. They would not provide any information on the purchaser. Bill

[Philip C.]

Well I guess my friends

in the police dept are doing me a bigger favor than I thought. You have to know them real well, I have had a lot of vins ran with no prolbem. Phil 8063

[Patrick H.]

Re: Well I guess my friends

I know several policemen "real well" and still have not had luck. They want to keep their jobs...although one may retire soon, and I've asked him to look up my 71 on his last day...

Patrick

[Clem Z.]

how about using the "freedom of information act"

and a good lawyer to get what you need????? i understand all govt info can be optained this way if you want to spend the money and with corvette owners spending $5K for a "correct "red line" tire this should not be a problem

[Terry M.]

Re: how about using the "freedom of information ac

The problem with this approach is that the NCIC is not a government agency. It is a private organization funded, I believe, by insurance companies. The information we seek is private property.

At one time NCRS approached them with a business proposition. We offered to pay on a case-by-case basis for the information. It must not have sounded appealing to them, because they didn't even give us the courtesy of a response.

[Philip C.]

Re: Well I guess my friends Patrick

Hi Patrick I hear ya sometimes its so close and yet so far. I am lucky my friend happens to works in the auto squad unit and he knows the vin belongs to me. I have helped him and his boss a couple of times plus I owned a couple of C-stores for 28 years and have gotten to know a lot of the guys from their first day on the job. Sometimes its just easier to say they cant than ask a favor of someone their not sure of or dont know well enough or even know thats its possible to get. The same way I wouldnt ask him to run a vin for me unless it was my car or someone who I knew real well. Point is they can do it and the info depending on the year (61 62 up) and if the micro fish is readable or has no breakin, it is available Phil 8063

[Wayne M.]

But it was initially GM-to-US Gov't info.

As I understand it, this data was related to the M.S.O. (Manufacturer's Statement of Origin), which besides being the paperwork that the original dealer used to issue the first title to the purchaser, was also the backup information for excise tax calculation, based on that weird formula for taxable horsepower and (maybe) the weight.

If it ended up in the filing cabinets of NICB, it's not theirs to hoard -- time to bring it back into the public domain.

What possible malfeasance can derive from releasing the data on weight, destination dealer and taxable hp on 40+ year old cars ?? GM Canada GLADLY sells you this information for peanuts.

Rant over.