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  • Rich Freeman

    74 Fuel Tank

    Does anyone know of a source to purchase a Fuel Tank evaporative control separator for a 1974 vette??

    Thanks
    Rich
  • Gary S.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 31, 1992
    • 1632

    #2
    Re: 74 Fuel Tank

    Rich, this has been discussed in detail in the past. You might want to check the archives. I was looking for one myself, but I doubt that you will have any luck either. If yours is merely in need of repair you will not like that answer either. I talked with a plastics engineer and was told that the plastic is a type that resists glue, bonding or other type of repair. In addition, anyone that has a takeoff piece will most likely have brittle plastic. Other forums has discussed using super glue and two part epoxies like JB Weld. I have played with both and found that they appear to adhere but can easily be pried off of the separator.

    No one has offered a replacement or a solution to this problem.

    Gary

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    • Michael M.
      Expired
      • April 1, 2002
      • 149

      #3
      Re: 74 Fuel Tank

      I very recently received a fliier ( I think from mid-america ) that shows that they are now carring a reproduction separator.

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • February 1, 1988
        • 43221

        #4
        Re: 74 Fuel Tank

        Mike-----

        That's very good news for 1970 with EEC and all 71-74 owners. I think that the market for these things probably involves the entire surviving population of these cars. I feared for a long time that this would be a piece that we might not see in reproduction due to product liability concerns. It's great that someone has finally "stepped up to the plate".
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Patrick H.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • December 1, 1989
          • 11643

          #5
          Re: 74 Fuel Tank

          Interesting.

          I ran the numbers on reproducing these, and almost pulled the trigger last year. The two things that stopped me were 1) the thought of dealing with Equity Management, and 2) liability. Apparently someone has decided they'll do both.

          Patrick
          Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
          71 "deer modified" coupe
          72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
          2008 coupe
          Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • February 1, 1988
            • 43221

            #6
            Re: 74 Fuel Tank

            Patrick------

            Now, we'll see who "steps up to the plate" for the 75-77 fuel tank bladders and the 78-82 fuel tanks with integral bladder.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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            • Patrick H.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • December 1, 1989
              • 11643

              #7
              Re: 74 Fuel Tank

              Any price listed on the flyer?
              I had one in mind when I went through the numbers last year. I just wondered how close we were.

              Patrick
              Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
              71 "deer modified" coupe
              72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
              2008 coupe
              Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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              • Patrick H.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • December 1, 1989
                • 11643

                #8
                Re: 74 Fuel Tank - found one

                Corvette Central's catalog - $50. See picture.

                I had thought I could sell one at $30. I wonder what they're doing with the extra $20.

                Patrick




                Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                71 "deer modified" coupe
                72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                2008 coupe
                Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                • Joe L.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • February 1, 1988
                  • 43221

                  #9
                  Re: 74 Fuel Tank - found one

                  Patrick-----

                  The extra $20 (or more) is likely for the liability insurance.
                  In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                  • Patrick H.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • December 1, 1989
                    • 11643

                    #10
                    Re: 74 Fuel Tank - found one

                    Could be. It all depends who makes the part.

                    I'd suspect a large repro company would have insurance to cover this type of thing. If they can make fuel lines, including rubber ones, this part should not be a big deal to their insurance company.

                    If a smaller guy is making it, then we know where it went.

                    Patrick
                    Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                    71 "deer modified" coupe
                    72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                    2008 coupe
                    Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                    • Joe L.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • February 1, 1988
                      • 43221

                      #11
                      Re: 74 Fuel Tank - found one

                      Patrick------

                      I think that there may be a difference between different types of fuel system parts. Metal parts that don't have SPECIFIC safety-related implications may be one thing. Plastic parts that also have very specific safety related implications may be another thing as far as insurance companies go. For example, the 56-74 fuel tanks and, more recently, the 75-77 METAL PORTION of the tanks have been available for awhile. However, no one has yet reproduced the 75-77 BLADDER or the 78-82 tank with integral BLADDER. I believe that the BLADDERS "raise the bar" a bit as far as product liability is concerned. There is a greater EXPECTATION (with implicit liability escalation) that they will protect the occupants of the car from a fiery crash than the expectation for a simple steel tank.

                      Like most kinds of insurance, product liability insurance is all about RISK. Sometimes the degree of risk can be quantified (like actuarial tables for life insurance) and sometimes it's a matter that's very subjective. In the Lloyd's of London insurance world, someone proposes a situation that they want to insure and the underwriters offer the amount of premium that it will take for their company to assume the risk. The higher the risk that they PERCEIVE, the higher the premium.
                      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                      • Patrick H.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • December 1, 1989
                        • 11643

                        #12
                        Re: 74 Fuel Tank - found one

                        Joe,

                        Absolutely.

                        I just couldn't see "more" liability for an evaporative emissions part like this which is occasionally exposed to fuel, vs. a rubber fuel line which is constantly exposed to fuel. I would suspect this even if a repro company uses Goodyear (or Dayco or whatever) fuel hose, and remolds it and restamps it with "correct" markings, that the fuel line liability would be higher.

                        Anyway, I'm glad the part is out now. I look forward to seeing one in person.

                        Patrick
                        Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                        71 "deer modified" coupe
                        72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                        2008 coupe
                        Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                        • Joe L.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • February 1, 1988
                          • 43221

                          #13
                          Re: 74 Fuel Tank - found one

                          Patrick------

                          I was once told that the seperator is designed to prevent the discharge of fuel in case of a roll-over accident. I don't know why it would be so-designed since the other 1 or 2 lines (depending upoin application) to the fuel tank have no such protection. However, that's what I was told. If it's true, that "element" of the seperator's design would be the one to "raise the bar" as far as "safety" is concerned. Without that element of design, the seperator would be just a run-of-the-mill fuel system part without any "higher degree" of safety implication, just like steel or rubber fuel lines, etc.
                          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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